• booty [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    So I’ll ask again, what criteria would you like to use?

    Well, let's start with the first step, which is citing a source at all. They have asked you to follow through on your offer to cite sources to back up on your claims multiple times, and you just keep getting bogged down in these wacky circular semantic arguments. Currently you are failing to produce any source of any strength or bias.

    • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Many of my comments have hyperlinks to different material supporting what I say, which I've said could be taken as indication I'm not being circular. Is this not what you're currently asking for?

      If it's because you think these sources are too biased, that itself is a part of my question you quoted, being what defines bias here? In a world where anyone can point to something and make a case that it must be biased, I'm here asking where the line is drawn between something tolerable and something intolerable.

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        • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          The medieval kingdoms are past manifestations of North and South Korea. If you studied Korean linguistics, I doubt you’d be questioning that they the manifestations even have different names.

          I dont want to take the time to go through your reference with you, only for you to then again refuse to engage with the argument but instead throw up yet another half-assed article.

          And you wonder why I hesitate as well as bring up the whole criteria question amidst you at other times asking for an increased quantity of sources rather than increased quality), especially as what you’re saying is more derailing.

          I did not claim they weren’t isolationist, nor did I say it was for any reason aside from it being one of their cultural values/habits. Is this not you using the straw man fallacy? Would you be arguing against the point I’m not making as if I made it if you were able to come to terms with the fact I didn’t make it, or would you be praising the fact that I in actuality agree with you on that point?

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            • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              It’s a strawman to say I said things I didn’t say in order to make it seem as if there is something I’ve said which can be argued against, which is exactly what you’re doing by saying “ it’s a strawman fallacy to quote things you said back to you”. If I perceived you as saying something, and you clarified what you meant and revealed I was perceiving it wrong compared to what you intended, I would respect this.

              Yeah good some website says they’re isolationist, because they say they are.

              ...as opposed to? It’s not pointing out a contradiction or hole or exposing a lie simply to dismiss the article’s claim.

              Conditions that, say it with me, are imposed by the us.

              ...based on?

              It is in fact incredibly simple to both visit the dprk, as long as you’re not American

              You say that like being restricted to one area when you visit and needing a supervisor is that much better.

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                • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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                  1 year ago

                  Did you not ask for more sources and did I not give a few more? Did I not ask what criteria you want us to go by with sources and did you not say there was no inherent criteria except to demonstrate where points in an article conflict? If in your answer to that question you were explaining your chosen criteria, you have a funny way of showing it.

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                    • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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                      1 year ago

                      Alright, if that's the criteria (even though it can be perceived as a lack thereof), then there's really nothing you're going by or can go by based on your sources because they're all even in that regard.

                      I'll give an example in one of them. One of your sources claims that North Korea allows people in like any other nation as long as it's not one of their three opponents... yet the sources also allude to the fact it's barricaded, with a river to the North and a guarded wall to the South.