Meta post I've decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn't use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn't know the origin of the term 'ricing' until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it's from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Ahhh yes the problem is that Hexbear came in and agreed it is racist, and then the racists threw a fit.

      Lmao give it a rest. Calling you a racist isn't abuse, you just don't like being called on it and now you're pissing and whining about it.

      Hexbear is a plague on lemmy, I can’t wait for the day of instance-level blocking

      It'll be great, you lot will opt out of seeing us, and opt out of cultural opposition to us. Meanwhile the vast majority will not, and without the far right as a constant source of distraction, concern trolling and sealioning the leftist influence will be even higher.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          minor issue

          Casual racism != minor issue

          Denial of racism != minor issue

          Unless you're a racist

          • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            You can strip the argument of all nuance and make all the false equivelances dichotomies you want, but you can fuck right off with it while you are at it, go crawl back to your imaginary arguments in your black and white world, you are clearly not here to discuss anything in good faith. I will engage with hexbear when you offer something of substance besides your adolescent maximalism.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              There isn't any fucking nuance.

              There is us pointing out something is racist.

              There are racists claiming it is not.

              There are racists claiming that the people calling you racist are being abusive for doing so.

              That's it. That's the discussion. And you look pathetic for it. You were on the side of every other word I mentioned earlier too.

            • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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              1 year ago

              I don't understand how this was an issue of "lack of nuance" or "black and white" thinking... Either the term is racist or it is not? ... Is it disparaging a group of people based on racial/cultural/ethnic stereotypes? Yeah. Is it reinforcing and normalizing those stereotypes and upholding an ideal "normal" that is associated with being part of the dominant group? Yeah. Does it seem petty and pedantic? Racism generally does take on a petty and pedantic character... When you go out of your way to deny these things, you are only doing it in service of upholding racist norms. You don't have to continue to defend it, you can acknowledge that it could cause a community harm and move on with your life by avoiding the harmful behavior. Changing the way you speak might seem annoying or like an imposition, but if you think that racism is harmful and want to challenge it by being anti-racist, ultimately people have to change the way they think, speak, and behave... but it is a good change. Embrace it.

              • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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                1 year ago

                On you go with the imaginary argument. I am not with you so I must be against you, right? I do not have and never did have a problem with getting rid of the word.

                I will reitterate that the only problem I have is with the stinking garbage heap called hexbear.

                • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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                  1 year ago

                  It is so interesting because I was engaging with you in a good faith, laying out an argument about why this might be more straightforward then you are letting on. But you called my argument imaginary and then called the instance I am a part of a garbage heap? Who is being uncivil?

        • HornyOnMain
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          1 year ago

          complains about a lack of civility

          Immediately calls a hexbear user a troglodyte and misgenders them (despite them very obviously having their pronouns in their name like all hexbear users) after being called out for racism

          thinking-about-it I wonder what social views this person could possibly have

                • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  Ok, so you're not necessarily a transphobe, but just another of this string of month-old accounts who has barely been active on this site at all beyond throwing a tantrum about hexbear users "coming in and ruining everything".

                  • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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                    1 year ago

                    Well I'd vager it is because we come to lemmy to escape reddit and all we see is hexbear users coming in and ruining everything. I mean as I stated earlier, even blahaj considering defedding from hexbear should be telling of the state of affairs. If that community has a problem with you, and that does not raise any flags, idk what does.

                    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                      1 year ago

                      even blahaj considering defedding from hexbear should be telling of the state of affairs

                      I don't want to go all "well akshually" here, but actually we defedded from blahaj because the community is largely made up of r/196 users who post transphobic chaser shit without getting banned by the mods there. Yes, of course these people also have a problem with us because they're rabid anti-communists, but we defedded form them because they're a bunch of sex pests fetishizing and objectifying trans people and thinking it's ok to make demands about which genitals we're allowed to have to please their fetishes. Why should we stay federated with an instance like that?

                      • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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                        1 year ago

                        And again, I have nothing against the core values of hexbear, I sympathise with most of them, including communism, but every time I see hexbear out in the wild it is a screaming match blown out of proportion. If anyone ever appears to be having a tantrum, it seems to be hexbear users 9/10 times for not getting their way the moment they opened their mouth.

                        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                          1 year ago

                          BTW you're the one typing frothing-at-the-mouth replies to everybody commenting on your post. Maybe you're not one to talk about screaming matches and tantrums.

            • HornyOnMain
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              1 year ago

              They're literally right there in both of our instances

              Show

              Show

        • MorelaakIsBack [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          when a conservative gets unreasonably triggered they are 5-15x more likely to start projecting

          mothers milk dripping off their lips

          this is very evocative dr ratso, would you like to talk some more about your relationship with your mother? thonk

        • kristina [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          weird of you to think of breastmilk, anything you want to tell us homelander

          • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            Lmao, is that supposed to hurt my feelings?

            But wait. Hold your horses there mr inclusivity. Is that a fatshaming insult?

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Your comment does not belong in this subreddit. It does not add to the topic, if you think comments don't fit in the community do report them and move on.

      Edit You also are quite a new user to the lemmy-verse from this month (compared to multiple year old users posting to you), which mostly is reducing the quality on communities on one hand and also got quite a few comments deleted. I urge you to read up on nettiquette and change your attitude if you want to be a positive contributing influence to this community.

        • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          "It's not common knowledge that this term has racist origins, but it does and we should stop using it" == "Y'all racist"

          yes thanks

          • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            Yes, clearly, that is the cool an levelheaded contributions hexbear brought to this thread. Absolutely no gaslighting here.

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Nobody has called the entire community racist, the callouts have been exclusively to people like you defending a term that obviously plays with one of the most common racial stereotypes about East Asians. Taking a racist term out of context doesn't make the term not racist, it only means that a still racist term has gained even wider use.

          • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            Again I have personally not once defended the use of the term, I have only ever attacked hexbear code of conduct. I even stated that I am for not using it in a since (mod) removed comment. I thought the term was dumb even before I (like most of this comm) found out about the origins through this thread. The only context in which I have defended it is in this convo and only in the aspect of the response it has gotten from hexbear, which if you don't feel is entirely disproportionate, we have nothing more to talk about.

            • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Again I have personally not once defended the use of the term

              You're straight-up lying, kiddo.

                • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  It's mommy, please edit your post while i look up your defense of racism in the modlogs. I'd have to report you for purposefully leaving up a misgendering otherwise and i don't think your account will survive that after all these comments have already been removed.

                • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  BTW this really isn't a good look for somebody who's already revealed their breastfeeding fetish, maybe you want to cut that part out entirely.

                      • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
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                        1 year ago

                        Wow, way to show your true colors :D Its pretty funny I have seen attempts at me to kinkshame and fatshame from the civil inclusivity instance.