China’s advanced anti-access/area-denial (A2/AD) defenses—comprising missile, tracking, and counter-space systems—create formidable challenges for U.S. forces, preventing effective naval and air deployment in contested areas.
Its also impractical and entirely opposite to the decades long Chinese naval strategy. China doesn't have an effective blue water navy anywhere near the strength of the US', and the PLAN would get sent to the ocean floor the second they attempted to break out towards the second island chain.
Almost because their naval strategy is focused around a green water navy centered on maintaining superiority of China's coastline and everything within the first island chain. Leaving US naval assets unable to maintain supply lines to Taiwan and the Philippines, with any vessels they send getting swarmed my smaller craft and AShM's.
Huge fleets operate with submarine escorts along with substantial anti submarine escorts and assets. Ie: helicopters with dipping sonars, planes with sonar bouys, destroyers with anti submarine load outs, etc.
Submarines are mainly only good for striking isolated contacts.
Yes...but what if you had like...a lot of them. /s
Joking, but it does seem China is heavily invested in building submarines specifically. I was curious if they had a doctrine against American naval power involving submarines. Despite what you said, I'd imagine submarines can carry a sizable missile platform and strike from far, far longer distances now. Striking convoys, trade-routes, etc in order to cut off supply to the "huge fleet". Of course they'd be protected but even the best equipment like you mentioned doesn't always stop 15 missiles from all different directions going at mach jesus. Houthi's managed it while on land.
Yeah it makes sense, when your opponent is a stretched global empire like the US, submarines offer the most bang for buck. The trouble the US had finding that one Russian sub that was right of the coast of Florida a little bit ago also proves that modern sub detection isn't all powerful.
I've read that China really is trying to develop a blue water navy, and is seriously challenging the U.S. more than was expected. I'm not saying that makes it equivalent to the U.S. though.
Then again, that argument could at least partially be fearmongering from the Amerikkkan imperialist rather than actual policy goals and actions.
Playing Devil's Advocate, while China would and should obviously make it's priority the first island chain, wouldn't it be "better" to have a dedicated force or plan to also attack from and reinforce from the second island chain if the opportunity presents itself?
And I assume that the chance of the U.S. taking Taiwan are less than 1 percent?
Its also impractical and entirely opposite to the decades long Chinese naval strategy. China doesn't have an effective blue water navy anywhere near the strength of the US', and the PLAN would get sent to the ocean floor the second they attempted to break out towards the second island chain.
Almost because their naval strategy is focused around a green water navy centered on maintaining superiority of China's coastline and everything within the first island chain. Leaving US naval assets unable to maintain supply lines to Taiwan and the Philippines, with any vessels they send getting swarmed my smaller craft and AShM's.
Not a blue water navy but China has quite a few submarines. That I would imagine would be the counter to massive fleets.
Huge fleets operate with submarine escorts along with substantial anti submarine escorts and assets. Ie: helicopters with dipping sonars, planes with sonar bouys, destroyers with anti submarine load outs, etc.
Submarines are mainly only good for striking isolated contacts.
Yes...but what if you had like...a lot of them. /s
Joking, but it does seem China is heavily invested in building submarines specifically. I was curious if they had a doctrine against American naval power involving submarines. Despite what you said, I'd imagine submarines can carry a sizable missile platform and strike from far, far longer distances now. Striking convoys, trade-routes, etc in order to cut off supply to the "huge fleet". Of course they'd be protected but even the best equipment like you mentioned doesn't always stop 15 missiles from all different directions going at mach jesus. Houthi's managed it while on land.
Yeah it makes sense, when your opponent is a stretched global empire like the US, submarines offer the most bang for buck. The trouble the US had finding that one Russian sub that was right of the coast of Florida a little bit ago also proves that modern sub detection isn't all powerful.
I've read that China really is trying to develop a blue water navy, and is seriously challenging the U.S. more than was expected. I'm not saying that makes it equivalent to the U.S. though.
Then again, that argument could at least partially be fearmongering from the Amerikkkan imperialist rather than actual policy goals and actions.
Playing Devil's Advocate, while China would and should obviously make it's priority the first island chain, wouldn't it be "better" to have a dedicated force or plan to also attack from and reinforce from the second island chain if the opportunity presents itself?
And I assume that the chance of the U.S. taking Taiwan are less than 1 percent?