• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Wholesome democracy Taiwan with their very democratic four decades of martial law and concentration campsso-true

        • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Where people can vote for their leaders of any political bent, while people on the mainland are machine gunned for peacefully protesting to gain the right to do so. Wumau tankie fascists are all the same.

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            This is like an octopus ink cloud of liberal cope and bullshit

            They still put Chiang "The butcher of Shanghai" Kai Shek on their money to this day. I have some from my time there. Guy was sort of the Zelensky of his day honestly

      • PatFusty@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Taiwan aka Republic of China aka state of China aka not a country. I dont care what a hand full of redditors have told you but they dont have a seat at the UN, the United States and EU doesnt recognize it as a sovereign nation, Taiwan depends on Chinese government and Chinese exports.

        Either way, China claims itself to be a democratic socialist country so just own that.

        • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Yeah ok man I don't care about your geopolitics, the point is that the only part of what is considered China which is at all democratic is Taiwan. The PRC is a totalitarian, one party dictatorship.

            • lazyraccoon@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Their existence is allowed as long as they recognize the CCP as the leading party. That is unusual for a Communist state, but it is definitely not a democracy.

              Not that it is a bad thing, it is just not a democracy.

                • lazyraccoon@lemmy.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  Great, I wasn't talking about America. I am also not American, so maybe you're right about it being corrupt.

                  It doesn't change the fact that China's CCP allows other parties in a controlled manner, to such an extent that they are allowed to exist as long as they acknowledge the superiority of the CCP.

                  This leads to the tyranny of the majority, as explained in the writings of John Stewart Mill.

                  Is it morally wrong? I'm not sure you can judge China the same as other nations. I find China to be very complicated and unique in human history.

                  Is it a democracy? Certainly not a full one. The Majority's tyranny is an easy discerning factor between democracies and republics.

                  • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    "moving the goalposts" is an informal fallacy, and sports other than handegg have them, so the analogy being made should be perfectly comprehensible

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Taiwan hasn't even been "democratic" (in the sense of "murder all political opponents to the left of Reagan for 40 years and then start letting people vote for the party that did this") for more than a few decades, so even at face value this barely counts.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan)