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Always good to see Roth on the pod. They need to rescue him from Drew Magary constantly talking over him on The Distraction podcast and give him a permanent spot in Chapo.
The little musical sting at the 15 minute mark is "Drones Over Bklyn" by El-P if anyone is wondering. I actually posted about it in c/music the other day funnily enough. Classic underground hip hop banger. I will die on the hill that not only is Eminem not the GOAT, he isn't even the best white rapper of all time, because that crown goes to El-P