Seems like established technology with common metals fabricating a simple mechanism. What differentiates a relatively inexpensive, contractor-grade faucet from one that costs anywhere from double to 10x the price?

  • tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    Guess how much a kitchen cabinet door costs. £10-15 per door. A kitchen with more than ten 40cm cabinets is going to cost you a bomb.

    if that seems excessive, you're right. A few years ago, those same doors were less than half the price.

    What happened then, did the doors change? Is the flimsy wood composite they're made of go extinct?

    You know the answer.

  • Thorry84@feddit.nl
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    1 month ago

    A couple of reasons:

    First of all what one wants in terms of faucet designs is very personal. As such there are many many models to choose from. This makes each model in be produced in relatively low quantities, and be more expensive. If everyone would use the exact same faucet, they would be basically free. And you do see some models being used in new construction that are very cheap indeed, just because of the higher volumes.

    Second of all, the tolerances and finishing involved. It's relatively easy to make a faucet that works, the designs have been perfected long ago and modern manufacturing can easily produce a working model. However to create a faucet that feels nice, that doesn't make weird noises, opens and closes smoothly etc. is a lot harder. I've had cheap faucets before, one of those single handle deals. It would take more force that I would like to open the tap, at which point it shoots open so water sprays out. The range in temperature is insanely hot to insanely cold with only a tiny single spot of normal temperature in between.

    Third reason is they are made from a lot of parts and with materials that need to be handled really delicately. Chrome finishes that scratch easily when handled in properly, leading to the whole thing becoming instant scrap. This leads to hand assembly being the only option. And often it involves a lot of small parts that need to be placed just so. This adds a lot of cost.

    Fourth reason is the materials themselves, often quite expensive to start with. Large parts being machined out of a single piece. By definition everything needs to be corrosion resistant. And it's one of the products where we still expect them to last 15-20 years easily. Not like the consumerism that's forced a 5 year lifespan to be called long in the modern world. The finishing coatings are often chemically applied with expensive materials and taking a long time. And a fully polished finish also takes time and is often done by hand and takes some skill.

    Fifth reason is brand names. Just like with any designer thing, brand names and designers are a large part of the costs. You can often find designer faucets for outrageous prices and cheap knock offs that can be trash or sometimes even better than the original for half the price.

    • greenhorn@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      I appreciate your insight. I assumed some of what you mentioned but have no idea what the actual manufacturing process are like compared to other products that use similar materials.

  • kevincox@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    As with most of these things it is pricing based on value.

    • Contractor is often fixing or building and cares a lot about the price.
    • Most other purchases are during renovations so a luxury expense and relatively speaking the faucet will be a small part of that, so it is easy to milk these people for money.
  • MoonElf [she/her, comrade/them]
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    domestic water pressure varies around 30-80 PSI. Faucet has to deal with smoothly managing that pressure at all times (on 2 lines) while allowing selective amounts out daily for years.

    The $12 ones on Ali Express will leak and break within a year. That $60 Kohler faucet may go 10 years before you need to replace a washer and 20 years with no issues before it gets replaced. Kohler faucets also have a limited lifetime warranty against leaks. I assume other higher end manufacturers offer something similar.

    When measured against the expected use it's a pretty good bargain unless you get one that's super fancy with unnecessary add ons.

  • Cataphract@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    It's morning and don't have a lot of time but this is an interesting question I wanted to answer while it was relevant.

    A lot of people have touched on the basics which kinda follow along any industry. Price gouging, variety is more expensive than just making one repetitive design, etc. Few things I wanted to touch on,

    1. You shouldn't really be replacing faucets that much. They design them to have internal structures which can be replaced. Even the crappiest low cost items can be fixed with a few bucks (they call these mobile home models, what gets put into all the mass manufactured items and are usually in a different section all to themselves). Pick a design you want and look into it's replacement parts to save some money (if you're worried about the part being reliably available, just get like 3 kits and you'll be set for life).

    2. Supply chain cost. Manufacturers make a product for 30, they sell it to distributors who mark it up to 50, they sell it to a store who then marks it up to 80. Home Renovision DIY has a great video detailing the process, compares online vs boxstore vs plumbing store. Also cuts them open and shows you the internals which is all great with a 13min video.

  • Nora@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    If I ever have to buy a faucet, I'll probably just 3D print one with a hole in it for a tube. Just use a tube and a 3D printed faucet. Easy.

  • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    The industry is highly monopolized. The cheap stuff is accordingly worse and the okay stuff can set high prices.

  • isabella86@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Honestly, what's not expensive these days? I did some remodeling in my home, and boy oh boy did we go over the budget with things I considered cheap. I looked into different manufacturers and they all claim the same thing I found here, the materials, prices going up, and labor shortage... Not really sure what's the difference, but one thing is for sure - I'm not rich enough to buy cheap things (and replace them all the time).

  • monovergent 🏁@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Agree with most of the other posts here. Some of the cheaper faucets I've come across have these miserable plastic valves that set you back $15 a pop and last only a year until they break. Then it either jams or water starts dripping.

    That said, an Ikea faucet I got on sale for $20 five years ago still works like it did on day one. In fact, I got two more while it was still on sale, fearing it would break like the other cheap ones, but they're still sitting in their boxes under the sink.