• RainbowTankie@lemmygrad.ml
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      6 days ago

      I'd consider the American Communist Party to be tailist and reactionary. It pushes patriotic "socialism", which is an oxymoron.

      • d-RLY?@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 days ago

        They should be treated the same as fascists. Bash the fash and never allowed to know anything but fear.

        • -6-6-6-@lemmygrad.ml
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          6 days ago

          Oh man, the civility libs I've met are getting all "WAAAAH THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUUUUU BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY SEEN HOOW TO DEEEAL WITH THESEEE PEOPLE"

          The absolute bottom of the barrel wastes of skin.

      • Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org
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        6 days ago

        patriotic socialism

        Patriotism is different from nationalism, right?
        Or are they using patriotism to hide nationalism?

        • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
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          6 days ago

          I'm not sure if the difference between those two words matters much in this context. I think the most important distinction is that there's a huge difference (for example) between a Palestinian being patriotic/nationalist for a state of Palestine and a USian being patriotic/nationalist for the US state. Palestine faces genocide and erasure. The US is a colonial project, now the head of a global capitalist empire, with a mythos about freedom that it has never lived up to since its inception and its most open days of local genocide and slavery. So to be patriotic for a country that is effectively just a vehicle for colonization and empire, and whose principles of "freedom" are mostly nonsense, is odd to say the least. The US has never once in its history been anything different, fundamentally. It doesn't have a unique ethnicity with a longstanding history and unique culture worth protecting that is linked to the country identity, but is instead a blend of immigrant ethnicities. There may be some unique pockets of culture within regions of the US, other than still-standing indigenous people, such as among non-white groups or even among some of those considered white on occasion, but they don't need the US state specifically to be that; and, in fact, in some cases they'd clearly be better able to be it without the US state in the way.

          So a lot of it just comes down to what country/people we're talking about and where their sense of patriotism comes from / what it's for. Whether we call it patriotism or nationalism or something else, if they look up to the founding fathers of the US, for example—figures who orchestrated a genocide and built a country with slavery—something is off in their thinking.

        • Red_Scare [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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          6 days ago

          "Patriotic socialism" is simply a new coat of linguistic paint for the good old "national socialism", same as "cultural Marxism" is just an updated name for "cultural Bolshevism".

      • RainbowTankie@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 days ago

        The Worker's Party of Britain is a tailist and reactionary party. I wouldn't recommend it, especially if you're neurodivergent or LGBTQ+.

          • RainbowTankie@lemmygrad.ml
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            6 days ago

            I used to be in the CPGB-ML. I left a few months ago, they're transphobic and homophobic af. A lot of the members trivialise climate change and spread right wing conspiracy theories. During one of their online study groups, one of them said that kids spending too much time on their ipads is making them autistic and I was the only one who called her out on it.