Should we try to bolster our friendship with Europe?

The author claims that the UK government "must unambiguously launch talks on a big, expansive trade deal with the EU coupled with a deal on European defence".

Do you agree?

  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 days ago

    Should we try to bolster our friendship with Europe?

    I once had a girlfriend who started acting like a little bitch, created much drama and dumped me for no good reason. Then she tried to come back to me a few months later. Can you guess what I told her to do? It rhymes with "thereof".

    Hint hint Britain.

    • SleafordMod@feddit.uk
      hexagon
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      3 days ago

      The UK doesn't need to necessarily jump straight back into EU membership. There are other ways we can work together with Europe. Maybe at some point the UK government will consider rejoining the EU customs union and/or single market.

      • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 days ago

        There are other ways we can work together with Europe.

        My point was, Europe may not want to interact with a fickle country like the UK anymore than necessary again. They probably don't need the aggravation.

        • SleafordMod@feddit.uk
          hexagon
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          3 days ago

          True, they probably don't want more aggravation, but they may well be open to closer co-operation on defence for example, which the article mentions.

        • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee
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          3 days ago

          Who could blame them? Lots of European people take a “you made your bed, lie in it” attitude. When we were in the EU, we were in on excellent terms, which will no longer be available, which will be a hard pill to swallow for many.

          • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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            3 days ago

            Lots of European people take a “you made your bed, lie in it” attitude.

            The problem is, lots of Europeans also think the UK shat their bed, then got up and left. That's not easy to forgive.

            • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee
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              3 days ago

              Made their bed, shat in it, and in many cases refuse to leave/accept it’s a bad situation. I can understand Europeans who won’t forgive. I was fucking heartbroken when I woke up that morning and found out Leave had won. I wouldn’t shut up about what a stupid idea it was, on social networks and real life.

    • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      Holding a grudge is for losers. UK is more than welcome to rejoin as far as I'm concerned, speaking as a Swede.

    • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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      EU is willing to fuck over its own members who they consider to be 'periphery' (PIIGS) or having trade deficits (even though the trade deficits were keeping surplus countries like Germany alive). I think it's ultimately a good thing U.K. left that neoliberal union. Unfortunately, U.K. politics is broken and none of the parties, including Reform are willing to go beyond neoliberalism.

      Now that Germany doesn't have many markets to export to, it is suffering too.