Every episode is after a time skip where the Enterprise has to be in drydock for three months making repairs to the over stressed patch jobs.
Isn't that what NG does allot of the time? There's a bunch of episodes that start with them leaving a spaceport or station. They just never show them at those places.
I always appreciate how the game FTL made "diverting power from life support" make sense. You don't do it when your shield generators are damaged, you do it when your reactor is too damaged to output enough power for both shields and life support.
I mean, if diverting life support power would make the FTL engines work, so you could effectively teleport from A to B in seconds or minutes, it could be worth it? Especially if the destination is a safe harbor for repairs. Then resume life support. Not likely to cause instant death?
Yup that's actually a tradeoff you have to consider in the game, putting more power into the engines speeds up how long it takes to make an FTL jump. So if you don't think you can beat the ship you're fighting, it can make sense to put all power into the engines to try and jump away before they destroy your ship. Turning off life support still leaves you with the air currently in the ship which lasts for some amount of time depending on how big your ship is/how many crew members you have/how many hull breaches, open airlocks, or fires there are.
Yeah, life support being off or at reduced power would mean carbon dioxide build up and it would probably get a bit sweaty, but you can survive for quite a long time in a sealed room, especially with how much spare space is in Star Trek rooms.
Unless life support includes something like "shields that keep all the air in" or something.
I agree with the theme of the post, but some of the examples need more work, possibly at the expense of being less quippy
Captain: Transfer power to the engines
Engineer: Sorry sir, but you have to submit a ticket. The SLA is 2 days.
Risa randomly started showing up a lot in my feed this week and I'm better for it. That last one made me laugh out loud, which made my injured sides hurt
I might be to blame on the Risa front. I've been posting every 2-5 hours on Risa to shoo away the lonely. I am, however, truly glad that I was able to provide some giggles. The pain not so much. Heal up buddy. <3
I had only watched the three modern movies. And the memes were the thing that finally made me watch TOS this week for the first time. I plan to watch everything.
Don't forget to join us for conversation! We try to be friendly. I've had very few bad experiences around here. I can't wait until you get to the First Contact movie. Utter banger.
Unpopular opinion but I haven't liked a single movie of the TOS era and only the one with the borg queen on the TNG era. Loved both series though.
There's a very old Newgrounds Series called Bad Guys where a space episode had an engineer get a Trek treatment from the captain:
Captain: "Engineering, boost the engines to 200%!"
Engineer: deeply exasperated voice "Fuck you! That's impossible."
I forgot about Bad Guys... thanks for that trip down memory lane!
The Harkerians being beautiful inside was such a memorable if creepy moment.
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Torres definitely says something like that to Janeway shortly after she became chief engineer. Bashir reminded them how long it would take to get back after their warp drive was destroyed in the Dominion fighter they were in. Gomez tells LaForge that she can’t divert power because the system she was working on was damaged during their first encounter with the Borg.
The best part of my job is answering like this when some rich asshole has his friend with a cad subscription submit a plan about building a septic system for a 2000 Sq ft house on a 3000 Sq ft island.
I figure the engineers just inflate their estimates in anticipation of the captain telling them to cut it down, and then the captain expects the engineers to do that and it's a vicious cycle.
Scotty also does this in Star Trek III...
Scotty: "If you don't have eight weeks, I can do it for you in two."
Kirk: "Mr. Scott, have you always multiplied your repair estimates by a factor of four?"
Scotty: "Certainly, sir. How else can I keep my reputation as a miracle worker?"
It was Kirk’s reply of : “understood” that always makes me laugh.
…. just the image of Kirk realizing Mr. Scott has been lying to him for decades.
Honestly this should've been a lower decks story. Billups gets so angry he talks like that for the whole episode.
All of these are just willfully misunderstanding the point of these things to the point of idiocy.
- Usually, the rigid time constraints are shown to not work, and something else happens that solves the conundrum. Either that or the engineer overestimated the time with regards to security protocols, testing and so on, implying that cutting time will be significantly more risky.
- The shields are offline because power generation is failing. Diverting power from life support is the last resort, implying that either we get the shields online at the expense of long-term life support for a small chance at survival, or keep them offline for a guaranteed death. It makes sense to divert power from life support.
- They are frequently in unfamiliar or entirely deserted locations. Who has every close space station in mind at all times? Are you implying that someone on a long highway cannot be surprised by the distance to the next gas station if gas runs out?
- This never happened.
- This never happened.
I always held the opinion that "treknobabble" was largely internally consistent and made sense within the established technologies of the universe, with notable exceptions in the biology department (TNG: "Genesis" anyone?). I dislike when people make fun of Trek engineer speech as if it was completely incoherent made up words á la "it's a unix system". "Treknobabble" is consistent and believable, and I don't think it's cute to insinuate that it's all some kind of silly in-joke.
Dude... calm down. We all understand that the things make sense in-universe. We're also able, however, to take a joke. To the layperson its easy to misunderstand and even to some veteran Trekkies it doesn't always make sense. That's where humor comes from. It's the same thing with Worf having his ass kicked jokes or jokes about Data misunderstanding something. I'm not a huge fan of jokes about the Spore Drive and how people don't understand that but I also understand that they're just that. Jokes.
You really need to be able to parse the difference between legitimate complaint and humor. That or at least take a step back so you don't get so worked up about it. Especially when this is on the Risa community...
Yeah, that had big "actually the transporter can do basically anything and could and should win every battle" nerding out energy.
For real. If someone wants to have a serious discussion about stuff, that's perfectly fine. But dude came in hot with phasers set to angy.
I'm not a huge fan of jokes about the Spore Drive and how people don't understand that but I also understand that they're just that. Jokes.
You might like this, then. Or hate it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSRk2nxjYHM
Oh I love it. Especially the animation of the Voyager spore-jumping and just the super anti-climax. Also, arguably, that's still a better final shot than what we got in Endgame. Not landing on Earth? Fuck off.
I guess it's better to say that I love the jokes like that but dislike some of the malice that comes behind some of the jokes, if that makes sense. Like for a while before the DSC S2 Finale, people were really riding that "Well why didn't Voyager jump back?" thing and some of the jokes were either based around a misunderstanding or outright hatred. If that makes sense. Don't wanna seem like I'm coming off like a crybaby because people are making fun of a show that I like. It's just hard to explain. I ain't good with dem der words.
some of the jokes were either based around a misunderstanding or outright hatred
Oh, I know it.
It felt like aftershocks of the staggering homophobic and racist rage inferno that broke out when Jar Jar Binks first came to theaters.
Christ, don't remind me. I'm only 31 but I have pretty vivid recollection of the Prequels release. When I was starting to realize I was gay (around 11-12ish) that homophobia around Jar Jar was extremely loud. It's no surprise why both Star Trek and Will & Grace became my safe havens on TV. Also no surprise why I fucking immediately latched onto Stamets. From the second he appeared on screen I related to him. The moment we found out he was gay? I was floored. He had been on screen for like two episodes, been in a scene with his husband, and was never mentioned. No one made a deal out of it because it didn't matter. Because it doesn't matter. But my god the hatred that spunout around him was over the top. A lot of the "Oh well why is he gay? Why does that matter? They're shoving it down our throats" garbage but then the utterly fucking insane take of 'Star Trek is woke now' as if it hasn't been 'woke' (whatever the fuck that means) since 1966.
Then Discovery had the audacity to include a non-binary character and a trans character as if they were, you 'people who deserve dignity and love like anyone else' and the same shit started up again. I am fucking tired bro.
However, my ADHD ass says as he goes off on another slight tangent, that is not the types of jokes that bother me the most. I've been stabbed for being gay so words/jokes don't bug me as much as they used to. What gets on my tits in a huge way are the outright ignoring of shit in lore. Like people saying "Spock would NEVER hide the fact he doesn't have a sister" as if he didn't hide the fact he had a wife, his father was Sarek and that he had a fucking brother. Or the misunderstandings about how the Spore Drive work because they didn't even take 5 seconds to read the opening paragraph on Memory Alpha.
Sorry. That was a ramble.
I so get you about why Stamets mattered. He was a fun recurring guest character on Star Trek Online too and had lots of spoken dialogue with the usual "funny yet depressed" vibes.
What gets on my tits in a huge way are the outright ignoring of shit in lore.
I'm old enough that I still groan when I hear percolating returns of the "DAE KIRK KILLED OR FUCKED EVERYTHING THAT MOVED" ultra-Flanderization
of decades past.How much actual Those Old Scientists did those people watch? It's hard for me to think of a single Klingon that Kirk actually killed with direct action on-screen in the original show, for example.
Very little Im guessing. People are doing a lot of bitching with no basis lately. Generally why I ask for sources or examples now. Astounding how often it turns into "Oh I can't think of any".
I guess it’s better to say that I love the jokes like that but dislike some of the malice that comes behind some of the jokes, if that makes sense. [...] some of the jokes were either based around a misunderstanding or outright hatred.
Why do you ridicule me then all over these comments for making that same observation with the meme you posted?
Do you have any examples of the 'actually writing a bunch of nonsense'? I can't think of any off hand and I'm just curious.
First off, a massive portion of Season 3 of Picard revolves around the fact that Picard is a cyborg. So I'm not entirely sure where that "before everybody just agreed not to talk about it" bit comes from. There's even a reference to him having a synthetic body in Discovery Season 4.
Second, I've asked that question of everyone who says that the treknobabble in 'NuTrek' doesn't make sense. No one has ever been able to give me any answer on that at all. A considerable portion of complaints about Discovery, as an example, are wildly unfounded. The 'it breaks lore/retcons' complaint is another. There is nothing that I can find that outright breaks lore. Either it's a misunderstanding, due to it being a visual reboot, or was set up previously by Enterprise.
There was an episode of Stargate SG-1 where the Stargate is broken and General Hammond shares this (paraphrased) exchange with Sergeant Siler:
Hammond: How long until you fix it? Siler: About two hours sir. Hammond: Not fast enough, you have 30 minutes. Siler: No sir, it doesn't work like that. 2 hours is the best I can do. Hammond: Then get back to it.
