For the first time in the history of TIOBE's index, Java has slipped out of the top two, leaving Python to occupy the spot behind reigning champion, C.
This is a pretty subjective distinction. I mean everyone agrees that vi is a text editor and Visual Studio is an IDE but most programs in the middle, especially the ones that support extensions, can be considered both. A lot of professional programmers are using things like VS Code, Sublime Text, or Vim, which are "editors" but have tons of extensions that do all of the auto-completion and compilation you could want.
It was less of a serious point and more of an attempt to dunk on BlueJ, to be honest (if you've ever used BlueJ, you'll surely understand). I ended up arguing the point a bit too vehemently, though, so it ultimately came across as serious, unfortunately.
Dude you're very wrong to even put BlueJ in the same paragraph as other Java IDEs lol. I used Eclipse and yeah, it's kinda clunky sometimes but nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can prepare you for BlueJ. Shit just fucking freezes all the time, it has almost no functionality and the interface is gross. But it's supposed to be "educational" because it portrays objects as boxes or whatever with nodes going from one to the other. It is very hard to explain if you haven't tried to use it, it's just gross even if it didn't crash every 10 minutes.
Alright I am kinda confused now because I don't know that much about programming (again, not studying programming) so I am not sure what term is right, but I'm pretty sure it is an IDE, like, it actually compiles the code and lints and shit. It's just awful at it, but it has an "educational" interface that is just horrid.
Just because it compiles the code doesn't mean it's an IDE. A proper IDE does things like code auto-completion (I virtually never use the } key because the IDE fills it in for me when I hit enter after typing a {, for example, and I almost never type full class names either) and other fancy features like variable renaming across all locations where the variable is used, dependency management, the ability to jump from a reference to a class/method/variable to the place where it's declared, version control integration, and many others.
I had to use BlueJ when I was in college; I'm familiar with it. I just don't agree that it's a proper IDE just because it's got a few more features than Notepad. Any "IDE" where you have to write your own import statements is not worthy of the title IMO.
BlueJ is not an IDE; it's a text editor. You might as well use Notepad.
This is a pretty subjective distinction. I mean everyone agrees that
viis a text editor and Visual Studio is an IDE but most programs in the middle, especially the ones that support extensions, can be considered both. A lot of professional programmers are using things like VS Code, Sublime Text, or Vim, which are "editors" but have tons of extensions that do all of the auto-completion and compilation you could want.It was less of a serious point and more of an attempt to dunk on BlueJ, to be honest (if you've ever used BlueJ, you'll surely understand). I ended up arguing the point a bit too vehemently, though, so it ultimately came across as serious, unfortunately.
Lol well I believe you that BlueJ sucks. All of the Java IDEs except maybe IntelliJ are a nightmare.
Dude you're very wrong to even put BlueJ in the same paragraph as other Java IDEs lol. I used Eclipse and yeah, it's kinda clunky sometimes but nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can prepare you for BlueJ. Shit just fucking freezes all the time, it has almost no functionality and the interface is gross. But it's supposed to be "educational" because it portrays objects as boxes or whatever with nodes going from one to the other. It is very hard to explain if you haven't tried to use it, it's just gross even if it didn't crash every 10 minutes.
Alright I am kinda confused now because I don't know that much about programming (again, not studying programming) so I am not sure what term is right, but I'm pretty sure it is an IDE, like, it actually compiles the code and lints and shit. It's just awful at it, but it has an "educational" interface that is just horrid.
Just because it compiles the code doesn't mean it's an IDE. A proper IDE does things like code auto-completion (I virtually never use the
}key because the IDE fills it in for me when I hit enter after typing a{, for example, and I almost never type full class names either) and other fancy features like variable renaming across all locations where the variable is used, dependency management, the ability to jump from a reference to a class/method/variable to the place where it's declared, version control integration, and many others.It does some stuff similar to that. It is definitely not a text editor. Wiki seems to agree. I agree it's garbage but it's still an IDE.
I had to use BlueJ when I was in college; I'm familiar with it. I just don't agree that it's a proper IDE just because it's got a few more features than Notepad. Any "IDE" where you have to write your own import statements is not worthy of the title IMO.