There's definitely a hidden meaning to this debate, people who understand far left politics can see it and people who understand right wing politics can see it. Moderate and moderate left (ex the Democratic party) are mostly blind to it because that's who the right wingers are trying to hide from.
...This post may sound a little wild but that's what's going on.
Right wing types hate and fear these guys but can't say their real reasons so they say other reasons that don't sound as bad (they're not genuine with their politics, they're abusive, they brigade a lot, etc) while people who understand the politics (largely other leftists who aren't on board with these guys specifically but also more moderate types) also tend to not like them but can see what's happening here and aren't about to side with the right wing types.
I can disagree with tankies and the extreme right.
Also, the US democratic party is about as left as my right arm, it's just that the US Overton window flew off long ago
There's definitely a hidden meaning to this debate, people who understand far left politics can see it and people who understand right wing politics can see it. Moderate and moderate left (ex the Democratic party) are mostly blind to it because that's who the right wingers are trying to hide from.
...This post may sound a little wild but that's what's going on.
Right wing types hate and fear these guys but can't say their real reasons so they say other reasons that don't sound as bad (they're not genuine with their politics, they're abusive, they brigade a lot, etc) while people who understand the politics (largely other leftists who aren't on board with these guys specifically but also more moderate types) also tend to not like them but can see what's happening here and aren't about to side with the right wing types.
I can disagree with tankies and the extreme right.
Also, the US democratic party is about as left as my right arm, it's just that the US Overton window flew off long ago