I don't want random techbros coming in, hence why I'm posting on Den. I hope this is ok.
I'm teaching an online composition class this summer. I got two essays from students that cited sources that don't exist. I called them out on it. Here's what happened.
One copped to using Bard, but then sent a second essay that still clearly reeks of gen AI or other horseshit.
The other copped to using a GenAI search engine unwittingly, and has tried to claim they've read things that, by all accounts, they haven't.
Normally, I would have just failed these students for writing hundreds of words on material that doesn't exist. But I really wanted them to go beyond a basic cop and explain their reasons for using this. This is in part since I have administrative duties around GenAI this year in our program. So I wanted to get data for my fellow instructors (i.e. here's what the student did, here's how we can design better assignments that both teach more carefully and also are harder to use GenAI on, etc. etc.) Instead, I've just hit a brick wall from them. They're insisting that it was only a research error, even though by all accounts, these essays shouldn't exist since the majority is written on things that just literally aren't out there.
Again, they wrote about things that don't exist as if they do. That's GenAI in a nutshell. It's some of the most blatant shit. And these students are still trying to justify their work.
What bugs me most, however, isn't the students. It's the fact that technology like this was thrown out into the ether without any fucking guard rails. These students don't realize the problems with it, so they're fucking themselves. And while maybe they would have found some other way to do this kind of lazy work pre-ChatGPT, the accessibility of these LLM models means that more students will do stupid shit like this and fail, instead of trying to learn.
I'm very doomer about this stuff, not because of some AI takeover, but the total enshittification of everything. The 
episode on it was very good on the other serious labor implications as well. However, there's also a ton of potential added labor or shittiness in the affected fields. After all, my instructors will have to work more for the same amount of pay OR just not bother policing it. Either outcome is terrible. While I'm going to do my damndest to try and help my colleagues build assignments that remain rigorous and have guiderails to avoid genAI production, the fact is, eventually it's coming for all of us. And even if it doesn't take our jobs, it's going to make us all more miserable. Because there's not the structures in place for FALGSC or anything. So we're going to lay people off, pay them less, remove some of the most human pursuits, and for what? A bot that's slightly more convenient and less accurate than wikipedia?
I'd love for someone to un-doomer me about this stuff, but it's just very depressing. I needed to vent among friends. Thanks for listening folks.
I'm still a 
at heart, but god damn is it hard to keep up in the face of material conditions.
They aren't there to learn. I know a lot of college and HS age kids and not very many of them really get into a learning mindset, they are there out of obligation, or to get something else they want, or because their parents insisted.
Also, depending on what year they are in, they probably built these habits in HS tbh, especially if they had teachers who didn't read their work in detail or never had to diverge from "analyze this well known novel", which I imagine the AI is more convincing at considering the wealth of source material. I've met some of these kids, its just the next step from "haha I never read any assigned books just the cliffsnotes if anything and I still pass" mindset.
Personally, I started to get into that "learning mindset" with certain classes in college and an extracurricular or two in HS, but in college I was already committed to a major that I already knew a lot about and increasingly didnt even grab my interest, so I dropped out rather than force myself to go through the motions for several more years of part time school that I mostly hated. I might go back for something like philosophy or sociology eventually, but the desire to actually learn not just pass has to be there.
Exactly, the goal of college is to obtain a job permission slip as quickly, cheaply, and easily as possible.
which is a shame, to be fair, but it isnt the kids' fault that it's being shaped to be more and more that way, I have a hard time really blaming them. But for all our sake's I hope it can be turned around. a real education can be a profoundly liberating thing.