Greetings gamers and those who wisely abstain,

It has become clear to us that even in the short while we’ve federated, the situation with sh.itholefor.nazis is entirely untenable and we will be defederating immediately. Multiple instances of ableist and homophobic slurs directed at our users, overwhelming litigiousness against even the most innocuous comments by our users, and just a general ethos of reactionary behavior. We’re done and out.

One of the concerns with embracing TC69 thought on site bans with federation is that the user would basically be just hexbear-side hidden and blocked from our comms, free to post reactionary content without the fear of Lenin behind them. That was a silly concern. We will resume our pre-federation policies regarding site bans.

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  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    I think some federation leftover is good, but I also think that we ought to look at how we can deal with the contradiction of safe space for marginalized users who brought their perspectives up on one hand and the want to be a visible public force for anarcho and communist talking points.

    When we find a process for that we ought to see how hexbear wants to move forward (i.e. try again).

    I wouldn't mind a breathing or ocean like ebb and tide mechanism. Withdraw a bit (except from some instances), deal with technical and social means to stop the negatives, find a bit of unity and expand again.

    Though it seems to be good to be permanently federating with some instances, as there is habituation that hexbear is there, most of the problems seem to be in the first few days/weeks when our culture is accepted or a local interaction with it is created.

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      the best idea I've heard is setting up a containment instance -- lib.rehab or whatever -- and have that instance federated widely while hexbear itself keeps federations more conservative. as long as the two hexbear instances stay federated, we're not splitting the userbase, and it gives people a way to get a reprieve when the sludge gets tiring.

    • happyandhappy [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Yea if we are like federating it'll be good to mayb put up like a warning that we just federated with Y and shit might be annoying for a couple weeks before bans and avoidance settle. So there's no confusion about what type of space we actually want to maintain and how we want to integrate w new users. Plus it could help to explain like what federation and etiquette etc is expected during the federation period cuz I have no idea what's going on typically