So you're just going to sit around and wait for someone else to come along and do the work or what? How do you think those groups were formed, just overnight suddenly? Are you part of any org? Do you do any organizing? DSA does a ton of labor organizing, tenant organizing, mutual aid, racial justice and environmental activism, anti war and anti imperialist campaigns, socialist education, etc. not just electoral work, and even in the electoral work its usually tied with community organizing. Having to have this dumb argument online with people on this site is haram, log off