Advertising on a product I own is not conducive with me owning the product, but with me renting it. It's not communism, but it is me not owning something I thought I own.
Never said it was. Communism is a funny thing. I've seen it work, and I've seen it fail, like all other systems, but it's hated. Capitalism is among the most protected system, by those within it. It's strange. I'm not advocating for either, by the way.
Assuming you're not talking about anarchists: Liberals are incapable of averting the effects of capitalism because they support capitalism. Their ambition is limited to setting rules that ask ticks to only drink a "reasonable" amount of blood.
Just a heads up, CCP has some racist connotations to it. The party's official abbreviation is CPC. I literally only learned this a few months ago, so just letting you know.
I didn't know that. I used ccp, because it was in the wiki article you linked. That's good to know!
The Land Reform Movement, also known by the Chinese abbreviation Tǔgǎi (土改), was a mass movement led by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leader Mao Zedong during the late phase of the Chinese Civil War after the Second Sino-Japanese War ended in 1945 and in the early People's Republic of China,[1] which achieved land redistribution to the peasantry.
I know I'm late, but if you're curious, it does seem that one of the main contributors is a guy named SocDoneLeft, who is a American reformist socialist, that famously is also a little racist, so it's not really a surprise that he would use CCP instead of CPC. Always remember to check the sources, and the contributors for higly divisive things on Wikipedia. Especially considering that a third of Wikipedia is written by one guy, and he happens to be an anti-Communist border immigration agent with US security clearance. He is not the most unbiased guy in the world as you might imagine.
However I do get the confusion, since CCP is what the entire West calls it, but even if you disagree with them as a political organization, I still think just calling them what they're actually called, and not a thing seeped in a lot of bad stuff, is better. I do appreciate that you are willing to use CPC when you were corrected though, that shows that you are not stuck in your ways as many are with this, so thanks for that.
Your other sources, I had no idea about either, so that's cool (and somewhat disturbing) to learn. If I were sourcing this article for a paper or article, I would actually do due diligence on it, it's writers, the sources and their writers, their sources and their writers, etc. But, alas, this is social media, so I slacked. I disagree with the the Nazis and their political stances, too, but call them Nazis. Why should anyone else, including the CPC, be any different? I believe Roy Trenneman said it best...
The cpc did, but not communism as a whole. Within communism, you still have landlords in a way, but instead of paying them, you pay the community with equal shares of whatever your crop is.
Neoliberalism is not what I described at all. At least, not the currently accepted understanding of the term.
Communism:
A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
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From Stanford, about neoliberalism:
Though not all scholars agree on the meaning of the term, "neoliberalism" is now generally thought to label the philosophical view that a society's political and economic institutions should be robustly liberal and capitalist, but supplemented by a constitutionally limited democracy and a modest welfare state.
Privately owned US companies that make massive profits off the capitalist system, like Stanford, obviously might not describe these things in an entirely honest way. The first definition of communism is almost correct, but the second is a common misinterpretation of communist theory.
The people who solidified communism as a political theory made a pretty clear distinction between private and personal property, as well as what they thought of landlords. Renting requires someone to own the means of production and lend it out to someone at a profit, which goes against the very foundations of communist theory.
Communism isn't "the government takes all your stuff and divides it equally among people" either. I suggest reading some theory. Marxists.org is a good place to start https://www.marxists.org/subject/students/index.htm
Stanford is a renowned university. Like all successful universities worldwide, they make money. I copied some of the definition, since it's multifaceted and long. But, the general concept is there for both terms. The fact still remains, this is a meme and not a definition of one governing system or another. The source you linked is a good one, though. Last time I sourced it, I got banned from a subreddit haha
Advertising on a product I own is not conducive with me owning the product, but with me renting it. It's not communism, but it is me not owning something I thought I own.
Renting and subscription services are very much capitalism.
There's a reason commies hate landlords.
Commies aren't the only ones who hate landlords...
Yeah sure but that doesn't make you renting things communism.
Never said it was. Communism is a funny thing. I've seen it work, and I've seen it fail, like all other systems, but it's hated. Capitalism is among the most protected system, by those within it. It's strange. I'm not advocating for either, by the way.
Assuming you're not talking about anarchists: Liberals are incapable of averting the effects of capitalism because they support capitalism. Their ambition is limited to setting rules that ask ticks to only drink a "reasonable" amount of blood.
No but they do tend to historically hate landlords a teensy but more
The ccp certainly did.
Just a heads up, CCP has some racist connotations to it. The party's official abbreviation is CPC. I literally only learned this a few months ago, so just letting you know.
I didn't know that. I used ccp, because it was in the wiki article you linked. That's good to know!
I know I'm late, but if you're curious, it does seem that one of the main contributors is a guy named SocDoneLeft, who is a American reformist socialist, that famously is also a little racist, so it's not really a surprise that he would use CCP instead of CPC. Always remember to check the sources, and the contributors for higly divisive things on Wikipedia. Especially considering that a third of Wikipedia is written by one guy, and he happens to be an anti-Communist border immigration agent with US security clearance. He is not the most unbiased guy in the world as you might imagine.
However I do get the confusion, since CCP is what the entire West calls it, but even if you disagree with them as a political organization, I still think just calling them what they're actually called, and not a thing seeped in a lot of bad stuff, is better. I do appreciate that you are willing to use CPC when you were corrected though, that shows that you are not stuck in your ways as many are with this, so thanks for that.
Your other sources, I had no idea about either, so that's cool (and somewhat disturbing) to learn. If I were sourcing this article for a paper or article, I would actually do due diligence on it, it's writers, the sources and their writers, their sources and their writers, etc. But, alas, this is social media, so I slacked. I disagree with the the Nazis and their political stances, too, but call them Nazis. Why should anyone else, including the CPC, be any different? I believe Roy Trenneman said it best...
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Commies are the only ones who ever successfully did anything about them
The cpc did, but not communism as a whole. Within communism, you still have landlords in a way, but instead of paying them, you pay the community with equal shares of whatever your crop is.
That is not what communism is lmao
There are different ideologies of communism, and this is one of them.
Which one? You're not describing any form of communism. You're at best describing neoliberal capitalism.
Neoliberalism is not what I described at all. At least, not the currently accepted understanding of the term.
Communism:
A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
.
From Stanford, about neoliberalism:
Privately owned US companies that make massive profits off the capitalist system, like Stanford, obviously might not describe these things in an entirely honest way. The first definition of communism is almost correct, but the second is a common misinterpretation of communist theory.
The people who solidified communism as a political theory made a pretty clear distinction between private and personal property, as well as what they thought of landlords. Renting requires someone to own the means of production and lend it out to someone at a profit, which goes against the very foundations of communist theory.
Communism isn't "the government takes all your stuff and divides it equally among people" either. I suggest reading some theory. Marxists.org is a good place to start https://www.marxists.org/subject/students/index.htm
Stanford is a renowned university. Like all successful universities worldwide, they make money. I copied some of the definition, since it's multifaceted and long. But, the general concept is there for both terms. The fact still remains, this is a meme and not a definition of one governing system or another. The source you linked is a good one, though. Last time I sourced it, I got banned from a subreddit haha