• relay@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    I never understood why people hate on that kind of thing. I can understand not understanding the perspective of trans people not being included in various things. But to a cis person that wants to play a cis person, this is just another box to select.

    Are they scared of treating people like people? I don't judge people on how much of a man/woman they are, but more of how good of a person they are first.

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Good. You shouldn't understand it. It is just them being irrationally angry it is just hate. It is a reminder that everything thry think is important is a lie and they can't handle it.

    • o_d [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      These reactionary psychos want trans people to not exist. They want games to take them to this "ideal" world of theirs and any small reminder of the fact that trans people do exist is triggering for them.

    • iByteABit [he/him]@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      It's not about the checkbox, it's about them not wanting to conform to a society where everyone picks their pronouns and should learn each other's too, they don't understand it and see it as a problem being accepted as reality instead of treated, and also don't want to society to become overly complicated because of it.

      Essentially the problem is that people with low empathy (who statistically also tend to be bad people) can't and won't understand this foreign concept unless they live through it themselves, which usually won't happen.

    • PZK [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I believe it simply comes from them believing that these people are destroying their country. They see trans acceptance as proof they are losing the culture war which they feel will have political consequences for them. It isn't going to affect them but they have been told it will by every pundit and cultural convention they are familiar with. At best they see it as strange and the ground is moving from beneath them. To put it more simply, its fear. They don't understand it so their reaction is to hate and destroy it because it signals societal change.

      Everything is zero-sum game to them. If someone is getting more recognition and rights, they believe it means they themselves have less.

      • relay@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        To a certain extent yes, there is loss of privlidge when cis supremecy is undermined, when cis people are treated like trans people, but there are not that many trans people for them to really undermine the cis people.

        • PZK [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Disagree. There is nothing that says someone needs to be subjected due to trans acceptance. I do not feel threatened by, or feel that my "privilege" is being attacked by the existence of trans people. They want to exist and be accepted and I don't see this as an assault on my existence. For the record am a cis lmayo male. I know I lose nothing by accepting trans people.

          What you described is what they believe will happen. Their minds are always in a place of believing that someone needs to be losing.

          As a tangent for the sake of example: I recall during the George Floyd protests that white people flooded gun stores to buy guns because they seriously thought that black people were going to come into their neighborhoods, drag them out of their houses and kill them. They think this because that is what they would do in their place. Its a silent admission of knowing they fuck minorities over and they have a right to be angry. They were scared of being casualties in a race uprising that they assume has been brewing because they know how they treat black people in America. They also assumed black people would just indiscriminately murder people because they see them as animals and not human beings. I was blind-sided by the entire white-panic mentality and one of my black friends had to explain to me why the lines were so frenzied and long at the sporting goods store.

          The same goes for trans people and the gamer throwing a crybaby fit about being reminded that they exist and people respect them. They don't understand them, so they hate them, and assume they... or someone else is working to undermine their lives. It is a lot more premeditated and sinister than you think. They want these people to disappear. Trans people make them scared. They worry they will have to question their own identity or sexuality which their culture has told them to strictly adhere to and demonize deviants. It does not look like it in the video, but the gamer dude raging about pronouns is utterly terrified of them because he has been propagandized and programed to do so.

          Its built on layers of punditry and propaganda that all feeds off of their basic human instinct of fear. Their reactions and solutions are reinforced by western civilization. They believe they would be undermined their privilege because that is what society teaches them, and not reality.

          • relay@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            I agree with most of this. I'm just saying that techically, with a limited resource pool of jobs provided by capitalists, and with trans people are treated equal to cis people, that means that the number of equally qualified people is greater. Any one cis person now has to compete on equal grounds with all other cis people and all the trans people now.

            However this is not that important. This is like saying you filled a measuring cup to the 300 ml mark at one point, then put a drop of the liquid in. Is there more liquid in the cup after the drop falls in? Technically yes. However, for all practical purposes involving cooking, that difference is functionally discarded.

            • PZK [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I see what you mean. Fortunately the labor market in the US is very much in favor of workers at this point and barring a major depression, its probably going to be like that for many years because boomers are retiring and leaving faster than the Fed can try to squeeze the labor market into submission.