Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

  • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Next we’ll blame any war in the Pacific on the US too when China decides

    I didn't read the rest but this jumped out just as I was scrolling by. Behold comrades, pure zombie NPC.

    I’d really like to continue this conversation about how Russia is totally blameless for the war they started (lol), but I have more important things to do. I’ll leave the thread here.

    "I really am terrified of a discussion about this but I'm typing up a shitload of Nazi apologia anyway and then running away."

    • dsmk@lemmy.zip
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      1 year ago

      Even Russia has issues with China's claims:

      https://www.newsweek.com/russia-breaks-silence-china-map-disputed-islands-1823983

      But sure, keep blaming the US for China's actions. Poor China, also being forced into doing this.

      Regarding the "Nazi apologia", what part of "don't invade someone else's country" don't you understand? Tankies gonna tankie, I guess.

      • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Every single country in the region has disputed claims. Every one.

        Forced into doing what? Beating the US at everything? Maybe go home yanks and look after your starving children? Or your sick who are dying for lack of basic medicine.

        Regarding the “Nazi apologia

        Oh it's you! So you didn't run away like you promised?

        This you?

        Russia, as they also have a “nazi problem”,

        Trying to both sides Ukraine's Nazism. Pathetic. Tell me, if they only got 2% of the vote, why did your rotten murderous scumbag country put Biletsky into power after your illegal Nazi coup? A guy who's sworn that Ukraine's national purpose is to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]”?

        • dsmk@lemmy.zip
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          1 year ago

          Indeed, it's normal to have disputed claims, even between China and Russia. But as soon I mentioned China in the south china sea, that "jumped out". If China behaves like dickheads with Russia, it's normal. If they do it in a different region, it's the US' fault.

          You hate a country so much that it clouds your view to the point that you criticise said country for doing something (eg: invasions) and then defend another you like (Russia) for doing the exact same thing. "Go home yanks" one second and defend Russia invading other countries the next. And I'm the fucking zombie?

          I never left Europe, so I don't know what's that about medicine. I have free healthcare. I'm not a fucking tankie though, you won't see me defending the invasion of other countries like you do.

          There's not much to run from to be honest. It's just I have no patience to discuss with people that defend the invasion and annexation of other countries. You want this war, you love it so much that you go around the internet making excuses to justify it, you just lack the balls to admit it. And then, when a country you don't like does the same, you correctly criticise their imperialism and tell them to go home... you're not doing it for the right reasons though, after all you like war when Russia wages it. It's just a general hate of the west that makes you have that reaction.

          I really dislike people like you, so, and as soon I submit this comment, I'll do what I should have done when you replied to me: block you.

          I'm not going to ask for proof of that coup because I know you don't have it, but let me turn that question around... Would a country with so many nazis remove people like Biletsky from power, only give 2% of the vote to the nazis, and elect a jew (all in 2019)?

          You'll probably do some mental gymnastics as you need to hold on to something... I mean, a man needs to sleep at night and if there's nothing to justify this war Russia started, you might reach the conclusion you're just a bad person that likes to see big countries invading, annexing, and killing people (as long it's Russia doing it!).

          Ta ta and farewell.

          • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            Indeed, it’s normal to have disputed claims, even between China and Russia. But as soon I mentioned China in the south china sea, that “jumped out”. If China behaves like dickheads with Russia, it’s normal. If they do it in a different region, it’s the US’ fault.

            Yes, exactly. Russia share a border. The US is a country on the other side of the planet. It's already lolworthy that you typed this as your first argument. Why is the US trying to provoke these invasions that you pretend to hate so much?

            You hate a country so much that it clouds your view to the point that you criticise said country for doing something (eg: invasions) and then defend another you like (Russia) for doing the exact same thing. “Go home yanks” one second and defend Russia invading other countries the next. And I’m the fucking zombie?

            You forgot that only one country is behind these invasions. The USA. It provoked Russia to invade for years. Russia pushed for peace. This is a basic historical reality you're going to have to confront. This is what they're trying to do with Taiwan now.

            I never left Europe, so I don’t know what’s that about medicine. I have free healthcare. I’m not a fucking tankie though, you won’t see me defending the invasion of other countries like you do.

            You'll defend the USA though? A country that's invaded more that any other in your living memory. Says it all about where you stand and your lack of principles.

            It’s just I have no patience to discuss with people

            Yet here we are. You don't even agree with yourself.

            You want this war, you love it so much that you go around the internet making excuses to justify it, you just lack the balls to admit it.

            That's literally you you're describing, trying to justify America's latest war.

            And then, when a country you don’t like does the same, you correctly criticise their imperialism and tell them to go home…

            So we're agreed after all? The yanks should go home? If they'd done that in 2014 there'd be no war. Looks like this was all a misunderstanding comrade.

            I really dislike people like you, so, and as soon I submit this comment, I’ll do what I should have done when you replied to me: block you.

            What a coward.