• BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Every time someone points out a random conservative or warhawk thing Biden did

    Maybe he shouldn't have done those things then.

    • abraxas@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I know, maybe Biden should agree with me on everything. That would be nice. But why should we treat everyone we don't agree with on everything the same as Trump? Do you **really ** think Trump did that little wrong? Or that Biden did zero things better than Trump?

      I'm truly disgusted by this. This black-and-white categorization of anyone who isn't as Left as Me as "exactly the same as Adolf Hitler". Trump quite literally preached Fascism and actively campaigned (and acted) on hurting brown people and tearing down the environment for a quick buck. Biden ran on "more middle-of-the-road shit". They are not the same.

      • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        No one is saying they are the same. They are saying the answer is not the DNC, especially not Biden.

        Trump quite literally preached Fascism and actively campaigned (and acted) on hurting brown people and tearing down the environment for a quick buck

        Biden has a horrible record on racism. He was awful during integration, literally wrote the racist crime bill, and helped bail out banks in 2008 whilst crushing and eliminating black wealth. Not to mention, he rejects critiques of the police and voted to increase all budgets for police and then the military.

        As far as the environment, Biden has okay'd new pipelines and given the go ahead to drill even more than his predecessor.

        Biden is more polite than Trump. He doesn't usually say racist things (or when he does, it's swept under the rug). Trump has worst aesthetics for sure. But Biden materially is fucking awful, and we should not entertain any options to the contrary.

        • abraxas@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          I don't disagree with anything you said about Biden's past, but that doesn't put him categorically anywhere near Trump.

          I want a world where Biden represents the Right party I hate. But right now, he's representing the only party that isn't making a goal hurting people I love. There are dead people I care about that would be alive if Trump had lost to Hillary in 2016. There are living people I love that would be dead or hurt if Trump had won in 2020. So I call that a marginal victory.

          Have you not experienced that? If not, you're either lucky or isolated or ignorant of causes of things. If so, then how can you let those you love suffer without being angrier at the cause than the guy who is just "not that great"?

          My problem isn't people saying Biden is bad. My problem is people saying he's as bad as Trump. As a president, he is absolutely fucking not.

          • duderium [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I want a world where Biden represents the Right party I hate.

            The Democrats are a far-right party by international standards.

            But right now, he's representing the only party that isn't making a goal hurting people I love.

            I guess we'll downgrade the mass murder charges to mass manslaughter since the Democrats don't explicitly state that they want to commit genocide, even if their policies always result in genocide.

            There are dead people I care about that would be alive if Trump had lost to Hillary in 2016.

            100% probability Hilldawg would have killed as many or more people than Trump did. They just would have been overseas or in amerikkka's internal colonies—out of sight, in other words, so liberals like yourself wouldn't have to worry about them. "Fascism is okay as long as it doesn't negatively impact me." More people have also died of covid under Biden compared to Trump (specifically because of Biden's anti-vaxx, anti-mask policies), while the proxy war Biden started in Ukraine has resulted in hundreds of thousands of needless deaths.

            My problem isn't people saying Biden is bad. My problem is people saying he's as bad as Trump. As a president, he is absolutely fucking not.

            Without doing research, name a specific policy passed by Biden or the Democrats since January 2021 which has improved your material life.