cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1759250

https://www.mazdoorbigul.net/pdf/Bigul-2005-12.pdf

  • Cyber Ghost@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    According to the CIA declassified documents he was not a dictator

    Even In Stalin's time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the Communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the Communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain. However, it does not appear that any of the present leaders will rise to the stature of Lenin and Stalin,so that it will be safer to assume that developments in Moscow will be along the lines of what is called collective leadership, unless Western policies force the Soviets to stream-line their power organization. The present situation is the most favorable from the point of view of upsetting the Communist dictatorship since the death of Stalin.

    • protist@mander.xyz
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      10 months ago

      One has to wonder how you've formed your worldview when you'll take one point from one CIA cable and think it proves your point. Stalin was still a dictator, whether or not the scope of his power was exaggerated by other governments, and there are thousands upon thousands of source documents to draw from on this

      Read further down in this document and it literally discusses the dire food situation in the USSR and the "poor material condition" of its people, contradicting your original point

      • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        Oh wow, a poor country was still poor 4 years after fighting the most tragic and destructive war in history?? I'm hearing this for the first time..

        Stalin was as much of a dictator as any other leader with powers over the military (all in the western world, as far as I know) but otherwise was always working with the politburo and party. That's what the CIA is admitting. I think determination of "dictator" or not is vibes based. What was he able to do that makes Stalin a dictator but let's say Obama not?

        Stalin was a leader for the proletariat, maybe a leader of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but he was absurdly popular and beloved because he really represented the interests of the poor in that position.

        • XEAL@lemm.ee
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          10 months ago

          Yeah, the people sent to Nazino Island loved him so much too, right?

          • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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            10 months ago

            Absurdly popular does not insinuate perfect, nor do I believe he was perfect nor all actions done in the government under his leadership. I do highly doubt these claims, seeing as they come from the guy who wrote the black book of communism (source for most of the wiki article) and Anne Applebaum included lol. If I had to guess, those people hated Stalin and the Soviet Union because an unplanned tragedy occurred which probably could've been forseen. During a drought and famine, the idea of sending people you can't feed (or won't give priority to because they are not working actively and improving the situation for all) to an island which is capable of being developed for agriculture to quickly do that isn't the worst idea.

            biggest point out of this: don't trust people who write nazi propaganda (black book of communism and Anne Applebaum) and then relook at the story

          • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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            10 months ago

            But also you changed the subject, I know that capitalists hated Stalin but I love him for that. Has nothing to do with the facts I stated, because Obama literally did worse than Nazino island in Libya lol, but he's not a dictator because the way libs use the word is meaningless

    • XEAL@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      You know, a dictatorship can take place with a small group of people with absolute power too, it doesn't have to be a single person.

      "Collective leadership" my ass, that's an euphemism for the people who caused things like the Nazino Island tragedy.