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  • RNAi [he/him]
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    Your parents extract surplus value from their employees. It belongs to the employees, not your parents. Your parents surely work, a lot probably, but they get to keep the full value of their work, their employees don't.

    After years of surplus extraction your parents accumulate it in capital, that is passed down to their heirs. Their employees can't accumulate even a decent retirement in this economy. They could if their surplus value wasn't taken from them.

    Your parents aren't bad people. But they are allowed and compelled to exploit others thanks to them owning the capital.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      this is the last point i make in my response that is apparently too powerful for hexbear to actually post angery

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      • RNAi [he/him]
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        Nah, nobody wants to kill the petty burshwá, sadly they tend to rabidly defend the unfair system that benefits them, and that's where the conflicts start. Proletarians ask for workers rights and they immediately vote for fascism.

        Hell, most petty burshwá would have a better life under a planned economy instead of this where you can get charged all your savings and more for a cheap-yet-life-saving medical procedure.

        But nobody has "kill bakeries owners" in a to do list to achieve communism.

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          • JuneFall [none/use name]
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            the problem is that she's very deep into a crapton of silly conspiracy theories, and conspiracy theory circles are absurdly right wing... so she's a weird mix

            Feel that, it is common in families.

            I think there is a material base to why the conspiracies are docking, it justifies her privilege and lets her be at the same time feel as victim of powerful forces from above and below and justifies violence and force (such as exploitation) to keep what is rightfully hers. A part is the insecurity that our system creates.

            Another part I think is the excellent propaganda that is possible nowadays, that is targeted at individuals and they do not live in reality, but constructed spaces in which alternate realities are created and alternate communities founded. With the lack of good social relations in which they feel accepted and secure (outside of hierarchies) they tend in my opinion to seek para social relations with that and take over the vibe and don't want that to be attacked, which is why they aren't open for facts or other emotional connections sometimes. Besides that they don't have or take the time and also lack the position to actually see what their position means for the system and align themselves more with capitalists against those that want more.

            With undoing their economic power on one hand and at the other hand securing their life and good quality of life for their children they might actually feel much better (or at least their children/children children will). I for sure know that plenty of close and close-ish family of mine would be better off under socialism as the threat of starvation, losing health insurance or not having a pension, or not having social clubs would be done away with.

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              • JuneFall [none/use name]
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                1 year ago

                Yeah I agree wholehearted with what you wrote and can relate to what you write about your family on this point as well.

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        no one wants to hang your parents, we all just want their employees to have the same opportunities they currently get by taking their surplus labor value.

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