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  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    18 (iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.

    Doesn't mean there will only be one product, but what is meant that the labour market is to be abolished, that the threat of unemployment, starvation and alike is done away with. A fundamental force in capitalist societies which bring out some of the worst things in inter class warfare.

    However my main point would be a bit more fundamentally. The text you cite is written by Engels and it is written to be a pamphlet to present the major collective understandings/(underpinnings of communists at that point. It was written before the communist manifesto, too. It is a good easy read especially in the context of the "spring of nations" 1848 and associated revolutions and movements.

    I don't believe that Engels got everything right at that point, but already achieve a good theoretical advanced back bone of communism at the age of 27 back then. Only 20 years later would the first edition of Capital be published.

    In my opinion the Russian Revolutions as well as the Chinese Revolution were both Marxist, but they both weren't quite the type of communist revolutions thought about at that point by Engels. The Revolutions and Civil War which created the Soviet Union was created in a feudalist state with incomplete industrial transition. While serfdom was officially abolished in Russia in 1861 its after effects remained till the Soviet Union. Plenty of reasons were there why the revolution was successful the weakening of the capitalist powers in the country and on the continent were a large part. The vanguard party that modulated the dynamics was also essential, though that meant that the material and social conditions weren't as older theory suggested.

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      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        It is a good starting point and I really appreciate that you try to find both, the way the texts work and the ways in which you think there are things that lead to either wrong conclusions or you don't agree with. Discussion and the academic or scientific method are tools that are quite good for people starting to read theory. We are rather having people who are aware, than people who accept theory texts as sacred texts without error or space for interpretation.

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