This sure feels like a trial balloon to see if people would be ok with publicly praising nazis.
That's exactly what it was. They're testing the waters. They've spent so long praising nazis during the Ukraine conflict, they're worried about the public's reaction if they were to switch back to "Nazis are actually bad" again.
If you have no idea who somebody really is, why would you want to take a photo with them? I suppose asking one staffer to maybe vet them before they are commemorated is asking too much?
The proper response is outrage that a nazi was invited to be honoured. Especially as a descendent of Holocaust survivors, the correct reaction is to be livid. Not upset that people are "politicizing an issue".
Not even a staffer to vet them. Either Zelensky or Rota introduced the Nazi as having "fought against Russia for Ukrainian independence, during WW2".
Everyone should immediately understand what this means, and especially a Holocaust survivor descendant.
Everything I’m seeing is saying Rota was the one to invite the guy, or at the very least his staffers. The Nazi lives in his riding.
The Hunka's are fairly well known in the ukrainian community in North Bay. Have done a lot of stuff in Sudbury as well.
It's not like they're a fairly important group, but have been in Northern Ontario for a long time. I know of Yaroslav Hunka from the Holodomor bus, which would come around every once and a while. He's not, like, a major figure, but you could tell a lot of the ukrainian groups in the two cities deferred a lot to him.
tours the country to raise awareness of the Holodomor and to promote core Canadian values.
The indigenous population probably agrees, but likely not how they mean.
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It seems this holodomor thing is to promote US monroe doctrine
The driver is the nazi version of miss frizzle
Yeah, I don’t think we needed a bus since it’s literally taught in social studies classes.
I wasn't sure who had said the above quote during the presentation. The fact still stands that people should at least be aware what that quote means, and makes some PM comments afterwards, defending Rota and the Nazi or trying to run damage control, despicable.
Politicizing an issue is when you take issue with parliament giving a standing ovation to a nazi...
Don't politicize the STANDING OVATION YOU GAVE TO A WAFFEN SS VOLUNTEER!?
DON'T POLITICIZE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS WHERE POLITICS HAPPENS!?
Goddamn am I taking crazy pills? Or am I one of the few sane people while everyone else in the NATOverse is sprinting headfirst towards fascism?
They mean something like, don't break the fourth wall. The only politics that's allowed is the sanitised theatre kind, where the two parties pretend to be on different sides. As soon as you point out they're all ghouls and all on the same side, they get defensive because it shatters their self image. Ordinary libs are the same.
I always wonder what they mean by “political issue” because, in my opinion, inviting a President from another country to drum up support for war and celebrating a Nazi veteran in the House of Commons seems pretty damn political to me.
One of the worst parts about this whole ordeal is libs being more outraged about 'this is ruzzian propaganda' or 'fcking tankies are gonna love this' rather than the fact that their heckin wholesome Klanadian government gave this guy a standing ovation (or the fact that they still have statues/monuments dedicated to the Nazis that they sheltered post WW2) lol
my favorite one is "this is a russian talking point"
yes, what you just said is completely correct and even backed up by western media reports, but russians also say it in their media so it's "propaganda"
I have also started seeing a lot of the phrasing "man who served with nazi unit".
It's exactly like the "man killed in police related shooting" headlines.
Tankies are always right and the libs know it and hate us for it
I’m seeing people saying “being a nazi was more nuanced” and it’s fucking disgusting.
He was a good Nazi.
Oh, like Oscar Schindler or John Rabe?
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... like Oscar Schindler and John Rabe... right?
We wanted to honor a Nazi in a government political chamber and then everyone just made it political for some reason!
Parliament isn't political and it doesn't govern. It is the marketing front of liberal democracy that exists to represent the ideals of debate and civility on the outside, and on occasion speak in unison to express class interests. They may "decide" that a matter is to be dealt with once in a while, only to immediately surrender the matter to a long chain of civil servants, who decide over how to go about it, to whom to pass it on, or whether to declare it impossible altogether.
"...stop politicizing an issue troubling to many, myself included."
Of all the crap I see and hear politicians do, seeing them whine about things being "political" is next level absurd. ITS YOUR FUCKING JOB TO BE POLITICAL.
It would be easy to denounce the individual after learning more about who he was, but this crocodile-tears approach tells me she knew who he was before (or doesn't care) and is just upset she got caught worshiping him. Here, I can write a better half-assed, passive voice coverup for her:
"I was not aware of the individual's past and it was not communicated to the other MP's. I do not condone or support the individual's past actions and I apologize for for my part in celebrating their presence. This was a mistake on the part of this governing body that should have been better communicated to us. I believe I speak for all MP's that we openly denounce Nazism, and the individuals responsible."
“…stop politicizing an issue troubling to many, myself included.”
Yeah, pointing out they are nazi sympathizers is troubling to them.
These people may be seasoned liars, but denouncing Nazism would cause their skin to boil. It's a level of pretending they can't achieve.
Look, the problem here isn't even that you insulted your Jewish grandparents by taking pictures with an SS volunteer. The problem is that you were part of a crowd that would strip naked and take a shit in the Chamber if everyone else did it. The problem is your boundless conformity to the crowd, your inability to stop and ponder, and your tendency to impulsively react to any stimulus whatsoever as if you were a squirrel on speed. Fascism doesn't succeed because of some sexist truckers from the Yukon. It succeeds because of people like you.
Democracy dies with thunderous applause! LUCAS WARNED YOU DUMMIES
Like all MPs, I had no further information than the Speaker provided
I, too, do not have a smartphone or an internet connection 😔
As a descendent of Jewish Holocaust survivors
If there's a heaven out there thankfully she's never meeting them again, she'll go downstairs with all the nazi collaborators she helps whitewash
She's spitting on the memory of her ancestors, does the shit and complains that it stinks.
Increasingly, the cost of admission to liberal mainstream society for minorities is denouncimg their ancestors and cultures. Seen too many Asian people throw their own countries under the bus for white lib approval to think that this isn't a variant of that.
You're right, IMO. You can see it all the bloody time with Russian liberals and emigrants. See someone screech about "slave mentality nation" and it's likely some Moscow idiot living in Latvia
Exact same behaviour from Chinese libs too lol, a few recent examples of them having tragic endings:
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One older lib moved to the US and got Covid, remarked how clean and empty the hospital rooms were where he was staying. Turned out the hospital was out of resources and he was just tossed into a room to die. At least his American dream never shattered while he was alive.
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One borrowed a whole bunch of money from his family/friends and ran to south America to enter the US through the border. His possessions were stolen in the process and now he spends his days on youtube/twitter begging for donations from fellow libs while denouncing his people as 'maggots'.
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A graduate moved to Japan to live in her dream land. Similar to example 2, she had also borrowed a bunch of money and ran off. Too lazy to work, she eventually struggled to pay rent and for food and slowly starved to death. Even on her deathbed, she was wishing starvation and nuclear annihilation on her own people. Her rhetoric was so vile that even her parents refused to have her body sent back.
Sounds about right, and reinforces the previous point about renouncement
Russian and Chinese shitlibs, it seems, were grown in the same batch
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it totally isn't racism to encourage people to assimilate nope no siree
And assimilation is dangled as a carrot that a migrant can never reach if they're not white. It promises an end to discrimination that absolutely will not come.
Everyone knows that the best way to deal with a problem is pretend it's not there. Look how well that's served us for the climate
changecrisisemergencyapocalypse.
