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HN Discussion

  • towerful@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    Enshittification is about increasing monetisation of a previously free/cheap product.

    Adobe moving from a lifetime purchase to a subscription service: enshittification.
    Adobe not supporting old GPUs: not enshittification.

    Twitter locking rate limits behind subscription: enshittification.
    Twitter rebranding to X: not enshittification.

    Raspberry Pi prioritising business customers making SKUs rare and enabling scalpers: enshittification.
    Raspberry Pi moving to a new version of Debian making many tutorials outdated: not enshittification

    Ensittificstion is the process of a platform good for users becoming good for business customers, becoming good for investors/shareholders.

    Whilst it is a cool phrase, and an interesting observation, enshittification doesn't apply to everything that has a core change.

    Enshittification would be mandatory ads in-game, some sort of P2W mechanic.
    Requiring better hardware is not enshittification.

      • towerful@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        Ok.
        CS:GO, a game released in 2012? Runs well on a 2016 laptop.
        CS2, a game released in 2023 can run well on a 2027 laptop.
        I don't think that's the argument you want to make?
        And I still don't think it's enshittification.

          • towerful@programming.dev
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            1 year ago

            CS has always needed a GPU.

            CS:go required anything DX9 compatible with 256mb VRAM. Which would be an NVidia 6600, a midrange GPU from 2004 - around the time CS Source was released.

            CS2 minimum spec is a GTX650. Which is a mid range GPU from 2012, around the time cs:go was released.

            Something of a pattern there...

            If CPUs didn't have integrated GPUs, this whole "cs is CPU dependent" thing wouldn't apply, because you would STILL need a GPU.
            It's just that intel bundled a barely passable GPU alongside the CPU.

            TBH, I think you are missing you're argument.
            You should be arguing that there is no way to play cs:go now that cs2 has released. Meaning a potential hardware upgrade requirement.

            That is a bummer. That's pretty shit.

            But it is NOT enshittification.

            That does not claw back value/money from customers to valve or its investors.
            Unless you can show me, beyond reasonable doubt, that Valve is making money from giving away CS2 for free to anyone that has purchased cs:go through the requirement of a hardware upgrade.
            Until then, this is not enshittification.

            Is it shitty? Sure.