• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    https://peoplesdispatch.org/2023/09/28/more-than-60000-ethnic-armenians-leave-as-nagorno-karabakh-republic-officially-dissolves-itself/

    It's more of those people now are fleeing because they fear the ethnic cleasing, but considering history of the region, i would say this isn't baseless assumption. We will see in next year.

    • dondurma [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      Great mental gymnastics, bro. So it's not an ethnic cleansing then. But it's going to happen for sho.

      I'm going to be honest with you, I'm of Azerbaijani descent, although I'm communist. I have my own biases, but I don't hate Armenians, in fact I have many Armenian friends and my step brother is half Armenian.

      What you are talking here is parroting Armenian nationalist propaganda. The wars that happened in this particular region are purely capitalistic. I'm going to give you a benefit of the doubt. You probably didn't know that Armenians kicked million Azerbaijanis out of their home in Armenia. That incident kick-started all of the atrocities. Worst of which was Khojaly massacre . Armenians (war criminals who happens to be Armenians) did unthincable cruelties to unarmed men, women elderly and children. Many was forced to leave their homes barefoot or naked in fucking winter, only to be shot in the nearby woods. Armenians today leave unharmed, with their bodies intact. And you people call it genocide.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        9 months ago

        Well i'm not gonna give you benefit of a doubt after post filled to the brim with liberal and zionist-like rhetorics including 4 instances of "as a" and "i have friends".

        I just want to comment that:

        The wars that happened in this particular region are purely capitalistic.

        Good to know that you seem to think capitalism means no genocide possible.

        • dondurma [none/use name]
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          9 months ago

          Also where did I say that capitalism means no genocide possible. Are you outside of your mind right now? I think I told you I'm communist. Nazi Germany was ultra capitalist, and look what they have done.

          I'm curious, why do you have problems with me saying that I have Armenian friends and relatives? How that makes me Zionist? You like putting words in my mouth that I didn't say eh?)

          I hate Zionist Israel and I'm rooting for Palestine.

        • dondurma [none/use name]
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          9 months ago

          My English is not great, but good to see that you can only criticize my semantics and language skills.

                • dondurma [none/use name]
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                  9 months ago

                  Imagine furiously researching "is Armenia an ethnostate?" And finding out that yes, it is 😢

                • dondurma [none/use name]
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                  9 months ago

                  Can I continue please 🙏🥺 don't swear at me, I might cry. Imagine defending genocidal, occupying another country's land for 30 years, ethnostate that is Armenia today. Imagine having no sources confirming you genocide claim? Imagine being so dense that you can't consider another side version?

      • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
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        9 months ago

        You probably didn't know that Armenians kicked million Azerbaijanis out of their home in Armenia. That incident kick-started all of the atrocities.

        The Ganja pogrom was in something like 1988, I don't think it's fair to talk about Armenia deporting Azeris without at least acknowledging that a similar situation was happening the other way.

        I don't think it's a great stance to act like something bad isn't currently happening, just because awful shit has been happening back and forth for a while. It's awful for the people being ethnically cleansed now, and it was awful in 1988 as well.

        The genocide/not genocide argument seems silly here. This awful situation is because of the collapse of the USSR and NATO meddling.

        Edit: just a heads up, it looks like you got banned from here. I think you've got a nugget of a point (i.e. "current events aren't isolated and the tensions between Azerbaijan and Armenia aren't as clear as they're sometimes portrayed to be"), but I think you could've phrased it differently.

        • dondurma [none/use name]
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          9 months ago

          Thank you for level headed comment. That's exactly what I mean. Current events are just shameless land grab by the local clans. Yesterday the ball was on Armenian side, today is on Azeri. Shame that innocent people die on both side. Wish we could bring back peace, like in USSR time before 80s. Armenians thrived in Baku. It was the most ethnically and culturally diverse city in the Soviet union.