You know, Robin Williams was the reason that I started doing stand-up comedy? My personal hero. Knowing that he did this for Neelix, especially when he was getting a lot of hate? Robin is a saint. Also just a small thing because I wanted to honor the man...

Reason #72151.

7-21-51.

July 21st, 1951.

Robin Williams birthdate.

Carry on 💙

    • Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.website
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      1 year ago

      Yeah when I was younger he was a bit cringy but now after realizing everything he's gone through and keeps going through? There was no one better suited to be ships Morale Officer.

  • TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Two of my fav VOY episodes are centered around Neelix. He's one of the best characters on that show. No need to argue with me about it, because deep down we all know I'm right. ^^

    • Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.website
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      1 year ago

      Out of curiosity, which ones? I'm torn between Tuvok and Neelix for my favorite character. Hilariously, Tuvix is my least favorite character by a mile. I don't agree with the whole "IT WAS MURDER" thing to begin with but I especially don't care when Tuvix was trying to force himself in a bunch of situations that made everyone else uncomfortable.

      • TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Jetrel and Mortal Coil, of course. My fav Tuvok episode is probably Meld, but mainly because I loved the plot around Suder and the actor of Suder is great in general. I've got nothing against Tuvok, but I don't really get Vulcans and their logic only attitude. It's why I thought the arc around Tuvix was interesting, but agreed, the character made a lot of folks very uncomfortable. Still, I think they should've used the transporter to "duplicate" Tuvix and devide the copy instantly back to Neelix and Tuvok. ^^

        • Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.website
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          Oooo good choices. The "You killed my family/committed genocide! Of course fuck your medical expertise" episode and the "The afterlife isn't real?" episode. Fucking STUNNING episodes. I've been rewatching Voyager and Mortal Coil played a couple of days ago. Always utterly captivating. Especially with poor Naomi asking about the forest after Neelix didn't see it. Truly a heartbreaking episode.

          Meld is also a fascinating episode. I'm a big fan of Vulcans so that episode was really great to see. A Vulcan revert to a sort of basic level of Vulcan. Their logic only attitude is derived, primarily, from a pants shitting level of fear that they'll repeat the mistakes of the past. Vulcans used to be hyper violent and barbaric but logic helped them realign. The entire species seems to be collectively terrified of sliding back into that so they hold onto logic like a life vest. It's a little tragic to be honest.

          Also, I love that duplicator option simply because it might actually make the problem worse. Duplication is extremely hard to pull off but lets say they do. Now you've got two Tuvix. Both of them with the equal level of "I don't want to die." Now you have to make the same question of "Do I kill him?" but with the added level of "Which one do I kill?"

          By the way, I hope my bit about the transporter clone isn't coming off as a "Fuck your thoughts!" situation. Just my view and a way to open up a discussion if you wanted one. I don't wanna come across as a dick here but re-reading that I wasn't sure when it came to tone.

          • TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee
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            Glad you liked my picks. :)

            Oh, I'm fully aware of the Vulcan "logic only" background, but to me watching them behave and act the way they do, I'd rather watch paint dry. ^^

            Regarding the double Tuvix plot: It's why you have to split the copy Tuvix the same second he's being created. Not aware of wtf was going on, Tuvok and Neelix show up again and are like: "Who the hell is that lad?" :D

            Edit: Nah, you're grand and I liked your objection. I had to explain further how to avoid that problem in the first place.

            Edit 2: I loved Spock's brother Sybok. He had some spice in his jam.

            • Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.website
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              1 year ago

              Also sorry if that came off as annoying in explaining something you already knew on Vulcans. More meant from the way I understand the character, not trying to overexplain. He says. Overexplaining. Sorry, anxiety and worry this morning are burning bad.

              Your picks are indeed stellar. My Tuvok episodes are tied between Meld and Gravity, the one where we see Tuvok as a kid for a hot minute. Then again I just like seeing the explanation from the warp-9-level of sass he usually carries.

              I'm just imagining the entire Tuvix duplication/split process causing the rest of the Doctors hair to fall out.

              Oh yeah, Sybok was dope. I got way too excited when they name dropped him in Strange New Worlds. NEED MORE!

              • TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                Don't you be worrying, love. All's good.

                Agreed, Vulcans do win all gold medals for sass! In that regard I've got to admit that my fav is probably T'Pol. But it's hard to pick a winner with Spock and Tuvok participating in that race.

                Had to laugh so hard trying to imagine how the Doctor's hair would first turn grey and fall out a second later :D

                Sybok returning in SNW would be epic!

                Also, Gravity is a very good Tuvok episode. Stubborn lil snot, back in the day. ^^

  • macabrett
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    1 year ago

    tbh his vibes are off when he starts dating and agrees to impregnate a 2 year old

    but if you remove that I like neelix

    • Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.website
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      1 year ago

      You're using human standards and forcing them on an alien species. Two alien species actually. Kes started dating at 2, sure, but she also has an average life expectancy of 10. Meaning, in human terms, she started dating when she was 20-25. If anything she was late to the party.

      It's not a fair complaint.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        It's still weird in the context of humans made the show Star Trek. I actually like Neelix and Voyager but it was still a little weird. It felt like those times the writers want to inject their fetish into the script, or like in anime there will be a 10,000 year old vampire who looks 9.