Not trying to dox myself so I'm not gonna say where exactly I work but yeah it's at a grocery store. Wondering about quality of meat at places and stuff? I'm your guy.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    let's compare this to climate change: do you think more people need to be "aware" that burning fossil fuels is fucked, or do you think someone has to make them stop?

    everyone knows fossil fuels are bad, even the people profiting off them

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        how do you expect to be able to make people stop burning fossil fuels if we don’t even know there’s a problem

        how do you expect to be able to make people stop burning fossil fuels when the vast majority already know there's a problem? individual consumer choices and shaming? or seizing the means of production?

                  • emizeko [they/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    as if "building solidarity" with a cow is meaningful in any actual sense. what have you built? what does that do besides make you feel morally superior? are you going to go out in a field and get its opinion on the mass line?

                      • emizeko [they/them]
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                        4 years ago

                        your point is we should recruit cows into the socialist party

                          • emizeko [they/them]
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                            4 years ago

                            Are you helping to seize the means

                            we were talking about seizing the means, and you brought up building solidarity with a cow to do that

                                  • emizeko [they/them]
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                                    4 years ago

                                    a dictatorship of the proletariat is a prerequisite to achieving real change, I will continue criticizing moral scolds whose theory of change is guilt-tripping and consumer choices instead of building a vanguard party

                                      • emizeko [they/them]
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                                        4 years ago

                                        the fundamental error you are making is thinking that ethical concerns will ever dominate material and cultural factors (which "ethics" are a subset of). the base (material conditions) and superstructure are the real forces reinforcing meat consumption.

                                        the only advantage the working class has is numbers, yet your priority is to immediately subdivide them into "good" and "bad" categories— instead of using those numbers to seize the power that could then reduce those material and cultural factors that reinforce meat consumption. that's why I keep mentioning a dictatorship of the proletariat, the only way to actually achieve communism against the forces of capital reaction. less sorting the working class on moral grounds, more historical materialism.