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  • Rufashaw [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Individual action changes the incentives for thise industries to operate. Again there is no ethical consumption under capitalism doesn't mean all consumption is equally unethical. And no we don't have that land america is the closest but one a lot of it is unsuitable for grazing for various reasons(hilly not the right climate etc.) Second that land is also stolen and to feed our current meat consumption if we were to produce all of our own feed we would need to deforest large swaths of our untouched land to prepare land to plant grain wr badically level it to nothing it would mean mass deforestation and increased use of pesticides to keep crop yields up damaging the environment further. Methane also traps heat up to 100 times more in a five year period than c02 and again the animal ag industry is the single biggest producer of greenhouse gasses bar none including c02

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Individual action changes the incentives for those industries to operate.

      This is an extremely liberal take. I'm not even going to argue it.

      Methane also traps heat up to 100 times more in a five year period than c02

      The 10% figure is in "CO2 Equivalent", basically normalized for its effect on the atmosphere.

      again the animal ag industry is the single biggest producer of greenhouse gasses bar none including c02

      This is just plain false. Agriculture as a whole accounts for 10% of greenhouse gas emmisions.

      Edit: To use global emissions instead: "Agriculture, Forestry, and other land use" is 24%, so animal ag is a fraction of that.

      • Rufashaw [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Animal agriculture accounts for as much as 85% of emissions from agriculture as a whole. And aknowledging market forces exist isn't like anti leftist lmao it's just not the most effecient way to allocate resources when your goal is to have the best outcomes for the most amount of people. Leftism doesn't like deny supply and demand exist lmao they are clearly mechanisms in capitalist economy they just aren't mechanisms designed to serve the interests of the global working class

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          85% of 24% is 20.4%. Most of that being CO2 from electricity and transportation. Which, again, can be addressed without changing how we eat. Methane emissions just aren't significant enough to require a lifestyle change much larger than what is needed to address the much more important CO2 emissions.