• Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    🤔

    both require phone numbers, and both concentrate metadata in a central location (Amazon servers, in the case of signal).

    both sort of pretend to be free open source software, and sort of are but with a lot of caveats.

    telegram doesn't even have end-to-end encryption (except for some wacky not-peer-reviewed thing in 1:1 'secret chats' which are rarely used); at least signal has it beat there.

    https://simplex.chat/ is a new messenger which doesn't have any of the above problems and seems quite promising imo.

      • Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "always active desktop sessions" but for any definition I could imagine it is possible to do that while having e2ee. Many e2ee messengers have multi-device support nowadays.

        Telegram doesn't need to have e2ee because they've pulled some trick of becoming widely perceived as being privacy friendly despite not actually offering any e2ee in most cases, and offering only some 🤡-protocol in the few cases where they do.

        Another reason for them not to implement e2ee is that they're most likely monetizing their users content data as well as the metadata (and in more ways than just charging some types of police for access to it, which is presumably only a small fraction of their revenue).

      • Boring@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        E2ee doesn't have to be 2 devices. It can be for any amount of endpoints as long as they have the key to decrypt the data.

        For example my nextcloud instance has e2ee for my phone, computer, and tablet.