Bro it's like saying sitting with AfD is not bad if you are killing Nazis in Ukraine. I mean I understand your point but Russian telegram is synonymous to Nazi telegram. People are overtly anti Semitic and anti central asians. Sure Putin has said about Multipolarity and such but he also said Europe is losing its Christian values. I don't think they will have a system where KPRF can get a chance to win. They will be butchered to death by UR and it's military loyalists. Atleast that's how I feel. Putin will outlaw communism the very next day if it loses power in Duma saying Lenin was a removed and Stalin was a psychopath.
I think it's more complicated than you are making it out to be. Every society has its contradictions, there are simultaneously reactionary and progressive elements and Russia is no exception to this. Also, Russian telegram channels are not necessarily any more reflective of the whole of Russian society than Reddit is of western societies. They merely show the existence of certain particularly toxic elements.
As Marxists we have to be clear about which contradictions are primary and which are secondary.
As for whether KPRF can ever win elections, again this is not the point. We don't expect a vanguard party of the proletariat to win bourgeois elections. This cannot happen in the West and for now it probably cannot happen in Russia either. The point is that they represent a significant political force that is pushing toward some kind of a return to socialism and exerting political pressure on the bourgeois state to adopt more socialistic policies.
They are the biggest communist party in Europe. They hold more political offices and have more public support as a percentage of the population than any other communist party outside of AES states. We cannot turn our backs on an openly communist party with this kind of prominence in one of the most important countries in the world simply because of the existence of contradictions and reactionary prejudices either in the party or the rest of society.
Or do you think that other communist parties like for instance the CPC are completely free of reactionary prejudices? Do you think every AES state has a perfect progressive position on every cultural issue? Do you think that we should renounce support for, say, the DPRK because they sometimes say cringy grandpa shit about western culture?
There is such a thing as critical support which can be appropriate to have even of problematic actors so long as their net impact on the world is more positive than negative.
Even if we give support here in lemmygrad , it doesn't matter much to Russia or KPRF. But truth to be told saying AfD is anti globalist or Trump is anti globalist then saying they are commies ..I know this is a fucked up scenario where mainstream left is against Russia but still Jackson Hinkle going in their MoFA academy to give a speech about secret cabals and god instead of something good is really pathetic. I don't see any possible good outcome if Russia wins this war. China will be there but the whole Europe and Putin's Christian values will get a huge boost for 3 decades or so.
Bro it's like saying sitting with AfD is not bad if you are killing Nazis in Ukraine. I mean I understand your point but Russian telegram is synonymous to Nazi telegram. People are overtly anti Semitic and anti central asians. Sure Putin has said about Multipolarity and such but he also said Europe is losing its Christian values. I don't think they will have a system where KPRF can get a chance to win. They will be butchered to death by UR and it's military loyalists. Atleast that's how I feel. Putin will outlaw communism the very next day if it loses power in Duma saying Lenin was a removed and Stalin was a psychopath.
I think it's more complicated than you are making it out to be. Every society has its contradictions, there are simultaneously reactionary and progressive elements and Russia is no exception to this. Also, Russian telegram channels are not necessarily any more reflective of the whole of Russian society than Reddit is of western societies. They merely show the existence of certain particularly toxic elements.
As Marxists we have to be clear about which contradictions are primary and which are secondary.
As for whether KPRF can ever win elections, again this is not the point. We don't expect a vanguard party of the proletariat to win bourgeois elections. This cannot happen in the West and for now it probably cannot happen in Russia either. The point is that they represent a significant political force that is pushing toward some kind of a return to socialism and exerting political pressure on the bourgeois state to adopt more socialistic policies.
They are the biggest communist party in Europe. They hold more political offices and have more public support as a percentage of the population than any other communist party outside of AES states. We cannot turn our backs on an openly communist party with this kind of prominence in one of the most important countries in the world simply because of the existence of contradictions and reactionary prejudices either in the party or the rest of society.
Or do you think that other communist parties like for instance the CPC are completely free of reactionary prejudices? Do you think every AES state has a perfect progressive position on every cultural issue? Do you think that we should renounce support for, say, the DPRK because they sometimes say cringy grandpa shit about western culture?
There is such a thing as critical support which can be appropriate to have even of problematic actors so long as their net impact on the world is more positive than negative.
Even if we give support here in lemmygrad , it doesn't matter much to Russia or KPRF. But truth to be told saying AfD is anti globalist or Trump is anti globalist then saying they are commies ..I know this is a fucked up scenario where mainstream left is against Russia but still Jackson Hinkle going in their MoFA academy to give a speech about secret cabals and god instead of something good is really pathetic. I don't see any possible good outcome if Russia wins this war. China will be there but the whole Europe and Putin's Christian values will get a huge boost for 3 decades or so.