• agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    The US is effectively acting as a guarantor of EU safety, the EU should let us fly our sick people over there for treatment IMO. Because our sick staying sick are the reason we can afford to have a military that could arm the entire world. Their safety is being subsidized by US citizens health.

    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."

    A quote from a US President that I think means more than some sourceless internet comments implying the size of US millitary has nothing to do with the US's lack of social servies. Argue with the president.

    Never thought I'd get this much flac for arguing that the over funding the US military negatively impacts the US's social welfare on lemmy of all places.

    • ferristriangle [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      US citizens don't lack access to those things because of a lack of budget. The threat of homelessness, hunger, and health insecurity are all forms of worker discipline. The barrier to solving those things is ideological, not budgetary.

      • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        To keep spying on their allies like was uncovered years bacn and promoting their corporate interests, same as much of Europe does to Africa, I'm not sure how that diminishes the fact that US citizens suffering is fuling the budgets that Ukraine gets, I got no problem they get that money, but Europe could stand to give what they can and they have a robust health network, not a robust military complex. You act like the corporate neo colonialism is benefitting US citizens and easing their suffering when all it does is boost the stock market lining the pockets of those who funded the economic colonialism in the first place. The US is the last country on earth this Russian Invasion would materially effect yet they're doing more legwork than countries that can heard the missle blasts.

        • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          boost the stock market lining the pockets of those who funded the economic colonialism in the first place.

          The global ruling U.S capitalists, and their compradores, plus their total professional managerial classes and small propertarians would benefit by that logic.

          But if you work and live for just a wage, or are the lumpenproles, or "the poors, especially the homeless drug users", who, coincidentally make up our majority, well, that's utter piss for ye guys...

          • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            1 year ago

            The global ruling U.S capitalists, and their compradores, plus their total professional managerial classes and small propertarians would benefit by that logic

            How very nice for the 10% or so of the population that benefits and was never suffering in the first place. It's nice to know that the rich in the US still get a piece of the pie.

            Also, thats how every capitalist country works though, look at the industry in France or even countries in Scandinavia do the same thing to Africa. Their populations dont get much if anything from it, but their capitalist class does. None of that diminishes the problems either population feels, and we all know these capitalists are barely paying tax if at all. They practically not even citizens of wherever they choose to be.

    • toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Id like to see more of that type of internationalism in the world. I think thats a great idea.

      Theres no way it will ever happen tho, because neither us nor our votes decide these things. Its the capitalists who decide, and they chose a private for profit model of health insurance.