Seems like a valid question to me. It's good to grow and learn, but I'm also curious why anyone would decide to go work for these war mongers in the first place.
Hungers a removed. I have a work history in wafer fabs and almost had to take a job finishing missile casings in a clean room cuz the experience was transferrable. Fortunately I found something else, but sometimes a job is a job.
So admittedly, during my entire onboarding process they mostly focused on the ability to get an education paid for through the company. You only need to stay an extra amount of time if you go that route or something similar. Buuuuuut.
When you look at people who have been there more than the 2-3 year mark. There are a lot of people there who genuinely feel like it's the closest they can be to helping the "war fighter come home safely". We had many meetings and slogans involving this. They are so fanatical, I actually almost got fired once for tilting a framed photo of a soldier once in a hallway. Anyone that is salary either is waiting to get a better job/pay or genuinely loves the military industrial complex. Also they tend to hire veterans a lot. They will adjust job requirements for veterans. Know a vet with a FORESTRY degree that ended up in engineering. The military experience is usually a substitute for formal education, its listed on a lot of the job position postings. This kinda helps reinforce the amount of pro military people who hang around.
Worked there a long time too. It was easy to find engineering projects to be on that had nothing to do with offensive weapons of death. Nuclear power, railroad automation, mail sorting, basic research, etc. Was always a hassle dealing with the culture there though. Lots of autocratic control freaks. Lots of managers who let their egos sabotage otherwise good efforts.
i once worked a temp job for JP Morgan Chase out of sheer desperation and left the second I found another job which was about 2 months in.. it was hard to live with myself knowing I'm contributing in any small way to such an awful organization.. I was curious if there were any other reasons why people might feel okay with working for these hellish orgs and I think you answered that
I had a friend who did it too. Sometimes a job is a job, and I won't clutch pearls over it. Not all of us have the good fortune to be able to be that selective about our employers. In a perfect world, yes sure.
The difference is whether you find something else as soon as possible or you actively make a career out of it. This woman is definitely in the second camp. Also I would look at a janitor there a lot differently than an engineer that was actively designing weapons.
It actually is surprising how much the industry can end up growing doubt into the illusion they brainwash you with. I had my awakening while working there. Yeah a job is a job and with a family their livelihood comes before my pride. But there is a union, so worker solidarity and spreading awareness when applicable can help bridge the gap.
Sorry for late response. I'm still working on my education now actually, I worked as only a electronic assembler I was never there for a career, just needed money. In fact quite a lot of people get there education and leave there due to the nature of the work making a sizeable portion of people uneasy. My sympathies for anyone who has to swallow their morals or pride and just get the job done for the paycheck, all while hoping for better days
Why were you an employee of the warmonger military industrial complex?
Is this productive? I genuinely can’t tell if you’re being curious or antagonistic.
Seems like a valid question to me. It's good to grow and learn, but I'm also curious why anyone would decide to go work for these war mongers in the first place.
Hungers a removed. I have a work history in wafer fabs and almost had to take a job finishing missile casings in a clean room cuz the experience was transferrable. Fortunately I found something else, but sometimes a job is a job.
thanks for your answer, i understand desperation very well.. i was curious if there were any other reasons
So admittedly, during my entire onboarding process they mostly focused on the ability to get an education paid for through the company. You only need to stay an extra amount of time if you go that route or something similar. Buuuuuut.
When you look at people who have been there more than the 2-3 year mark. There are a lot of people there who genuinely feel like it's the closest they can be to helping the "war fighter come home safely". We had many meetings and slogans involving this. They are so fanatical, I actually almost got fired once for tilting a framed photo of a soldier once in a hallway. Anyone that is salary either is waiting to get a better job/pay or genuinely loves the military industrial complex. Also they tend to hire veterans a lot. They will adjust job requirements for veterans. Know a vet with a FORESTRY degree that ended up in engineering. The military experience is usually a substitute for formal education, its listed on a lot of the job position postings. This kinda helps reinforce the amount of pro military people who hang around.
Hope this helps give insight and makes sense.
wow that's great insight thanks for sharing it
Worked there a long time too. It was easy to find engineering projects to be on that had nothing to do with offensive weapons of death. Nuclear power, railroad automation, mail sorting, basic research, etc. Was always a hassle dealing with the culture there though. Lots of autocratic control freaks. Lots of managers who let their egos sabotage otherwise good efforts.
thanks for the explanation
i once worked a temp job for JP Morgan Chase out of sheer desperation and left the second I found another job which was about 2 months in.. it was hard to live with myself knowing I'm contributing in any small way to such an awful organization.. I was curious if there were any other reasons why people might feel okay with working for these hellish orgs and I think you answered that
I had a friend who did it too. Sometimes a job is a job, and I won't clutch pearls over it. Not all of us have the good fortune to be able to be that selective about our employers. In a perfect world, yes sure.
The difference is whether you find something else as soon as possible or you actively make a career out of it. This woman is definitely in the second camp. Also I would look at a janitor there a lot differently than an engineer that was actively designing weapons.
It actually is surprising how much the industry can end up growing doubt into the illusion they brainwash you with. I had my awakening while working there. Yeah a job is a job and with a family their livelihood comes before my pride. But there is a union, so worker solidarity and spreading awareness when applicable can help bridge the gap.
Sorry for late response. I'm still working on my education now actually, I worked as only a electronic assembler I was never there for a career, just needed money. In fact quite a lot of people get there education and leave there due to the nature of the work making a sizeable portion of people uneasy. My sympathies for anyone who has to swallow their morals or pride and just get the job done for the paycheck, all while hoping for better days