Aren't you just giving your info to a VPN provider instead? Like, if I wanted to gather data on potential threats as an CIA dude or whatever is probably set up and advertise VPNs cause someone using one is more likely to have something to hide so you have less to sort through. How is that better than your ISP having access to your web activity? Where I am ISPs require a warrant to disclose info. Just feels like a trick.

  • Coincy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I feel like vpns work best to obscure location/IP address info bc ideally there is no way to connect incoming encrypted data to the outgoing encrypted data. Also the feds required a warrant to get data from VPNs too and the VPN companies stake their reputations on keeping that info safe even if they have to fight in court while ISPs have no pretence of privacy. It's all about making it more difficult to connect your traffic to you because if the feds really want to find you they will.

    • Coincy [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Fwiw I have very little knowledge of networking or whatever but that's the understanding I've gotten over the years

    • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Fair enough. What about the possibility of an agency just kinda running some VPN networks and collecting data that way? Would they really have to tell you?

      • Coincy [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I don't think its impossible and im sure they have set up smaller ones. At times there have been vpns advertising on deep web markets and carding forums specifically for crime which has to be an Op. But for the larger reputable vpn services those are multi million dollar companies with massive server farms and stuff which would be pretty tough to keep everything under wraps. It would be way easier to hack in and set up a backdoor or leak. Again online opsec serves the purpose of making you be more trouble than your worth for the feds so every extra layer helps.