• gramathy@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Also zoos take in animals that are injured or otherwise unable to be rehabilitated to the wild, often as part of breeding programs, so it’s not like “we captured a wild X to breed it”.

      • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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        10 months ago

        Yet zoos also kill perfectly healthy creatures, however, because they are seen as "surplus"

        So it's not like they are being just held there while they are healing and then released once they are healed

        https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26356099

    • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      From the article

      On the contrary, most people don’t read the educational plaques at zoos, and according to polls of zoo-goers, most go to spend time with friends or family — to enjoy themselves and be entertained, not to learn about animals and their needs. One study found the level of environmental concern reported by attendees before they entered the zoo was similar to those who were polled at the exits.

  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Okay, so I'm not far from the Fresno Zoo. Fresno Chaffee Zoo participates in wildlife re-introduction programs in order to bring species back from the brink (or from extinction in the wild, even). That's important work.

    Does the threat of extinction justify subjugation? Well, I guess that's down to your personal moral outlook, I suppose. Personally, I think that it's better to preserve life than not, and given what poor stewards of the planet we're being, I'd suggest we have a duty to keep these populations going until we can get our shit together. But, again, it's a question of personal convictions.

    People don't read the plaques at the zoo? So what. Imo, you can't judge educational efficacy on that metric alone. I think that seeing these animals helps make them real to people, instead of just some thing you saw on TV once. Besides that, this doesn't account for a number of things, like:

    -How often did the polled attendees visit the zoo in the last year? If they visit frequently, reading the plaques probably is kind of a moot point

    -How familiar are attendees with zoos in the first place? If an attendee is familiar with a zoo, it's not really that much of a shock to say that they didn't have their world view changed by the visit. It's possible their world view has already been affected by previous zoo visits.

    I'll concede that the system can use some work, but I see that as cause for reform, not cause for burning the whole thing down.

  • BadlyDrawnRhino @aussie.zone
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    10 months ago

    I appreciate where the author of this article is coming from, but I think they're being a bit too one-sided.

    For example, they make the point that zoos don't contribute enough to conservation, donating only around 5% of their spending, as if the millions of dollars given doesn't justify their existence. But if zoos didn't exist, that's a big chunk of money that wouldn't be going towards conservation at all.

    They also talk about the education aspect, that visitors don't necessarily read the information about the animals and instead go for the spectacle. But a child isn't going to read those plaques regardless, but seeing animals up close might ignite an interest in conservation later in life.

    And one thing that the article doesn't really go into is the fact that humans are still actively hunting animals in the wild, and destroying habitats for profit. And while I think zoos are a bit of a band-aid fix when it comes to endangered species, I'd much rather see an animal in captivity surrounded by zookeepers that care about it rather than extinction.

    In an ideal world, zoos wouldn't exist. In a slightly less ideal world, only open-plain zoos would exist. But we are a very long way from that, and I personally believe that reputable zoos are a positive in the world we currently live in.

  • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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    10 months ago

    Ive never met anyone who is anti zoo that actually has any experience in animal conservation or wildlife rehabilitation.

    I think of it as the armchair psychology of the biology world, given the near 1:1 comparisons between the two.

    • kozy138@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      Exactly. When people here zoo, they usually picture something between the Tiger King and Sea World.

      When in reality, it's closer to a medical research center for animals.

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    10 months ago

    People donate and will want to protect things they can see and experience. Zoos are an experience that help the public want to protect animals.

    • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      From the article

      On the contrary, most people don’t read the educational plaques at zoos, and according to polls of zoo-goers, most go to spend time with friends or family — to enjoy themselves and be entertained, not to learn about animals and their needs. One study found the level of environmental concern reported by attendees before they entered the zoo was similar to those who were polled at the exits.