He claims that it will create division, by not supporting it he is creating the division. If both parties support it there's no mainstream voice for those against it, marginalising them. The Liberals were really good at convincing people to vote no, I wonder if they could ever use that capability to support something good for once
Right. So this whole referendum was treated as a strategic opportunity to stick it the various labor party Govts across the country, right? Now with the No voters established, they’re thinking there’s a base on which to build some sort of anti-woke quiet battlers labor are out of touch platform into the next round of elections.
Honestly, I think Albo kinda fell for it. The strange silence from Albo and the fed govt at the moment reveals that they know they’re in a bit of a moment right now.
That's the problem with our two party system, when one is in opposition they're not thinking about how they can do any good, they're just thinking about how to get back on the other side. Politics shouldn't be a career choice, it should be about choosing to stand up for what you believe in to make some positive change
There was a podcast episode, I think from Democracy Sausage, that talked about how historically referendum no campaigning parties actually do poorly in the subsequent general election since they lean in to absolutely insane arguments during the campaign, which gets them the referendum win, but the loss in the general election. I hope that happens here.
Interesting! I had seen similar discussion about Dutton specifically, where the teal seat results in the referendum are an obvious indicator.
I'm surprised they even supported it to begin with. I mean it's the qld lnp...
maybe they should have had a look at that yes/no vote map posted here the other day. sure, most of the Yes was in NT, but quite a lot of crossover into FNQ aswell
It's worth noting that that map was by polling place, which means the population was not equal on a per-dot basis.
And when you look at it across larger populations, there's actually even more of a yes vote in parts of SEQ than there was in FNQ, purely because the population of (yes-voting) educated city-dwellers is larger than the population of (yes-voting) Indigenous Australians. So divisions like Brisbane, Griffith, and Ryan, as well as parts of Lilley (including the polling place I worked at) voted majority Yes, and represent a greater number of total people than those yes-voting polling places.
I'm not trying to make any value-judgment here, fwiw. Just pointing out some statistics.
Nice one “progressive No” supporters you have really shit the bed here. By opposing Voice because you wanted treaty you gave the hard Nos and racist cover. Made the indigenous outlook look like it was split and have made treaty much less likely and harder to achieve than ever.
i really dont want to just shit on people who thought they were doing the right thing, but i really have to question why people didnt see this coming
