https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-weapons-program-it-workers-f3df7c120522b0581db5c0b9682ebc9b

Court documents allege that the government of North Korea dispatched thousands of skilled IT workers to live primarily in China and Russia with the goal of deceiving businesses from the U.S. and elsewhere into hiring them as freelance remote employees.

  • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]
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    9 months ago

    You have been lied to about North Korea. It is simply not the evil dictatorship it's constantly portrayed as. This was a shock to me too when I first started trying to dig into all the things I'd been hearing most of my life about the "hermit kingdom." But if it is something you're remotely interested in understanding, you owe it to yourself to start questioning those lies, which includes questioning the material reasons behind why they are told. Since you posted something from a "defector" below, that's an excellent place to start asking questions about the veracity of claims made by defectors and understanding the industry they are incentivized to participate in (often to the point of having no other options).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V4Hnl7J9H4 Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul - "A documentary on the world of defectors and South Korean Intelligence"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDXxXYFweTs What's the Deal with Defectors? - shorter video essay that covers the basics.

    If you like podcasts, I'd recommend Blowback. Any of their 4 seasons are excellent, but season 3 is about the Korean war and its consequences.

    • Rolder@reddthat.com
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      9 months ago

      Uh huh, sure. That’s why visitors are heavily monitored and often end up being detained and taken prisoner. Not to mention the lengths their people have to go to if they want to leave. Surely the signs of a healthy and stable country.

      • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]
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        9 months ago

        "Uh sure, I'm not going to question these lies because here is yet another set of lies I already don't question that confirms the first set of lies. Checkmate, commie!" -You

        Not to mention the lengths their people have to go to if they want to leave.

        Why might they have to go to such lengths? Hmmm...

        "Plenty of North Koreans leave and live in China with no problem. The big reason it is so difficult for them to leave in general isn't because they are being held prisoner there by the DPRK government, it's because of restrictions imposed by the US and UN making it impossible for them to live most anywhere else."

        United States:

        "5. North Korean Overseas Workers (OP8): Requires countries to expel all North Korean laborers earning income abroad immediately but no later than 24 months later (end of 2019)."

        United Nations:

        "Strengthens the ban on providing work authorizations for DPRK nationals by requiring Member States to repatriate all DRPK nationals earning income and all DPRK government safety oversight attachés monitoring DPRK workers abroad within their jurisdiction within 24 months from 22 December 2017."

        Meanwhile the DPRK has no official restriction on the people's free movement.

        That’s why visitors are heavily monitored and often end up being detained and taken prisoner

        People visit there all the fucking time without issue, but you can keep comforting yourself with more lies like that so you don't have to confront reality. You're really proving you have no curiousity and no will to examine your misconceptions. Here's another vid I might have included in my other comment, this one about visiting North Korea. Not that you actually watched or have any intention of watching them, but this one is short and comedic, so maybe even someone with zero interest in intellectual honesty might watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E

        Surely the signs of a healthy and stable country.

        Yeah, and hellholes like the US have such health and stability that they have the most prisoners in absolute terms and per capita by far where their ethnic minorities are murdered by their militarized police death squads with impunity. And why soldiers from the US are now defecting to North Korea because of the insane racism and oppression they face in the US.

        Westerners are the most propagandized people on the planet.

        • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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          9 months ago

          (Not the guy you're responding to) Yo, thanks for the links about the US and UN laws; I'm showing them to my lib colleague (fat chance it'll have any effect though, the American Cinematic Universe is too important for him).

          • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]
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            9 months ago

            kim-salute

            Glad to help. Truth be told, I got the links myself from someone either on hexbear or lemmygrad. And inshallah-script the info might help get through to your colleague, sometimes the "right sources," like from characters in their precious ACU, actually can make an impact.