• doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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    My problem with this message is that it's being sent by the same people whose legislators would never decrease defence spending and would spend the bare minimum on infrastructure. In fact, just recently, the House Republicans managed to pass H.R. 4365 with 216 R and 2 D, a 826 Bn USD Defence Budget, which is an increase of 26 Bn since the previous year and 100 Bn more than the year before that.

    Yall don't give a fuck about infrastructure or deficit unless somebody else is president.

    • Aria@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      That's a weird comment? I think Xi Jinping is doing a great job as president. Oh wait, you're thinking of Miguel Bermúdez, my bad, that was silly of me.

      This is a weird comment, I think Miguel Bermúdez is doing a great job as president.

      • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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        1 year ago

        Oh ha ha did the post not specifically mention the USA? Did it not talk about the USA spending specifically on supporting Ukraine defence and sovereignty, an issue divided by partisanship? I wonder what temporary president I would be talking about, is it the literal dictator for life Xi Xinping? HMMMM such a mystery I clearly made a mistake lololol. /sarcasm

        • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.mlM
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          1 year ago

          https://www.quora.com/What-kind-of-democracy-does-the-China-have/answer/Godfree-Roberts?share=0ac8c628&srid=JMzz

          • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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            1 year ago

            You're trying to massage the idea that a leader for life, who can never be removed because no other party can have a seat in their congress, is a functioning democracy? Really? What a hill to die on.

            • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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              The party can always remove any leader including Xi Jinping if he is no longer performing his role according to the party and the people's expectations. Also, there are numerous (at least eight) other parties represented in the National People's Congress of China other than the CPC. On top of that there is a larger proportion of independents than in the US congress. But this is beside the point because it would still be a democratic system even if there was only one party allowed.

              • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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                He won with 100%. 2,952 votes present and for.

                A dissident in the Chinese congress gets removed with immediate effect.

                He is dictator for life.

                • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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                  Tell me you have no idea how China's political system works without telling me you have no idea how China's political system works.

                  Also, are you going to admit you were wrong when you claimed, quote

                  "no other party can have a seat in their congress"

                  or are you just going to sweep that lie or embarrassing admission of ignorance under the rug?

                  Why are you moving the goalposts? If Xi Jinping has to be periodically confirmed in his position by the representatives of the Chinese people then he is not "dictator for life" then is he? The fact that you cannot imagine a political consensus like that existing over a genuinely successful and popular leader is simply a testament to the dysfunction of your own liberal western political systems.

                  Furthermore, please show us evidence for this claim:

                  "A dissident in the Chinese congress gets removed with immediate effect."

                  Where in China's laws does it say this and when has this ever happened?

                  • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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                    1 year ago

                    LMAO, nice quote who is it from? Even children make better arguments than to make up a statement and claim it's a quote of the other person.

                    I think the burden of proof would be on you in this case.

                    • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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                      Literally you two comments ago:

                      "You're trying to massage the idea that a leader for life, who can never be removed because no other party can have a seat in their congress, is a functioning democracy? Really? What a hill to die on."

                      Will you admit you were wrong or will you deny your own words?

                      • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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                        1 year ago

                        Ah right, that's fair, feels odd that you'd quote me further back in response to a newer comment. You know that was literally a week ago?

                        But no, my point still stands, Xi Jinping cannot be removed from power and his party cannot lose control of congress.

                        • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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                          Xi Jinping cannot be removed from power and his party cannot lose control of congress

                          You are conflating two entirely different things here.

                          One is whether Xi Jinping can be removed from power, which he absolutely can by the congress and the party choosing not to re-elect him. Whether or not this will happen depends on how well he does his job and when he will become too old to be fit to govern.

                          Another is whether the Communist Party of China can lose control of congress, something which it can only do if the people lose confidence in their rule. China as a socialist state of course has it enshrined in law that the reins of power will always be held by the Communist Party. That is a good thing.

                          The Communist Party represents the working class and the working class is in charge under socialism. That is called the dictatorship of the proletariat and it's what socialism is about. Sorry but we are communists here and we are not going to make excuses for liking the fact that communists rule in a communist country.

                          The approval rating of the CPC government among the Chinese people is over 90% even according to western studies and polls by the way. Why remove a leader and a ruling party when by all metrics they are doing a fantastic job?

                          • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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                            Xi Jinping won with 100% of the congressional vote, I'm not conflating anything here.

                            The CPC is corrupt as fuck, they're not representing the interests of all the districts much less the lower class.

                            He's a dictator who cannot ever be removed from power.

        • Aria@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          Let's dissect this. In your original comment, you ascribed an origin to OP, and implied a motivation for them. This is the crux of me making fun of you. OP is extremely unlikely to be from the USA, or make a distinction between the two wings of the bureaucracy making up the regime in power in the USA. Xi Jinping has held his current position for 11 years, Miguel Bermúdez for 4 years. Neither are dictators, because they are leaders of democracies. Hope this was informative.

            • Aria@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 year ago

              It would. Who are you talking about? Xi Jinping? Xi Jinping is not leader for life, he's leader as long as he's re-elected. He's also not the leader of the government, China has a Prime Minister, you doofus. His party is also not the singular party that makes up the government. http://www.cppcc.gov.cn/zxww/2023/01/18/ARTI1674005617470226.shtml

              And something you left out is that the party he's from is literally the communist party of China, which means his party's special interest group is the people of China. Which is what democracy is. But a party representing and subservient to the people is a foreign concept to people who live in dictatorial countries and have to choose which powerful aristocrat to align themselves with.

              • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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                1 year ago

                Xi Jinping won reelection with 100% of the vote. 2,952 out of 2,977 congressional votes were present and voted for him which is a 100.00% margin.

                Xi Jinping and his singular party removed the term limit for Xi Jinping, meaning as long as his party is in control then he will always be president. For Life.

      • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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        1 year ago

        I really don't, the people who spread this sort of message and take a stand against the USA supporting Ukraine defence and sovereignty are majority Republicans. Theres even top comments on this post talking about "the libs" in a derogatory manner.

        • taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          You really do.

          Republicans want to stop funding Ukraine cause they want war with China. We want them to stop funding Ukraine because it would be the quickest way to end the conflict peacefully.

          Republicans are libs too. Libs are anyone who support capitalism and it's ideals.

          • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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            Lmao Republican voters don't give a f*** about China. They just think Russia is their friend, which makes the largest foreign threat in their eyes China as a fallback.