• fer0n@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    What’s the solution that involves violence? It can be a wake up call to start a discussion, but I don’t see how things are going to be solved by it. But you tell me.

    • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      When your rip out your intruder by his roots, and cast him into the fire. You cannot really be sitting here trying to justify to someone whose lineage still bears the scars of Amerika's colonialism, that another people's settler-colonialism should go unopposed. You can't be. Expecting the settler to just fuck off back to wherever he came from is idealistic and patently impossible, as Amerika's example shows us; so what's left from the perspective of the colonized? Like I said.

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      Don't bother replying; I don't 'debate' with settlers(and settlers aren't just Amerikan; it's a state of mind-- but cute 'gotcha!' attempt) and you've already shown your hand.

      • fer0n@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        No way am I saying it should go unopposed. But I also don’t think "ripping out intruders and casting them into fire" is going to be a feasible solution in this case.

        I don’t live in the US btw, if that’s what you mean by "Settler".

        (Are we continuing the discussion by editing the comments now? ^^)

        • taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          All you've done is complain about the solution the Palestinians have come up with in order to liberate themselves. If an occupying state is doing everything it can to eradicate you and your people what do you think their only choices are going to be?

          • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            That peckerwood was still going off over on his instance even after his ban lmfao. Debate pervs gonna debate perv, especially the crackerish ones

            • taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 year ago

              People like this can't even bother to think outside the framework of simplistic logic of "violence bad". Like motherfucker if someone is trying to kill me I'm not just gonna let them... it's the same dumbfuck horseshoe theory of "violence against oppressors makes you just as bad as the oppressors"

              • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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                1 year ago

                Honestly, much love to the ancestors who paved our way; but I stand on the assertion that the likes of Dr. King and other non-violent activists fucked us all up giving the peckerwoods an 'idealistically higher' option to cudgel us with. I don't doubt they'd have come up with a way to get to the same old horseshoe horseshit "just as bad" nonsense-- but the deliberately-half taught beliefs of Dr. King and nem (because they NEVER teach about the whole "that dream I had, has in many ways become a nightmare" quote, or how he was getting closer in ideology to Ture, and Seale, and el-Shabazz before the government had him murdered) allows these crackers to feel so morally superior when they stare down their nose and hem and haw about how "absolutely evil directly fighting back against one's oppressor is".

                • taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  That's a fact. I also know that a lot of our people tend to be religious and that plays a factor in the whole "nonviolent" tactic. I don't like the idea of the tragic martyr, that the oppressors will grow a heart and that's how we can "earn" our freedom. If they had a heart they wouldn't have dehumanized and enslaved us in the first place