• RedDawn [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It’s just a clump of matter slowly growing inside another clump of matter,

    Yes, so it is a real world, material phenomenon, which is what I said.

    you need to account for the existence of your mind somehow.

    I did, my mind exists as a result of physical/chemical processes within my body and brain. That’s it. This poses absolutely no problem for me, it’s a problem for you because you insist on treating consciousness as unique, other or above matter. That’s a you problem, I don’t have that problem.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I did, my mind exists as a result of physical/chemical processes within my body and brain. That’s it. This poses absolutely no problem for me, it’s a problem for you because you insist on treating consciousness as unique, other or above matter. That’s a you problem, I don’t have that problem.

      Which brings us back to this comment again: https://hexbear.net/post/91483/comment/1013036

      I was literally you a year or two ago when I started researching this stuff, I get that you think you've got it figured out but please give it a chance. You're making logical errors in your thinking without realizing it.

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yes, you are. The subjective feeling in of itself cannot be equal to configurations of matter, it's literally like saying the cup on your desk is literally the abstract concept of the number "2". It makes no sense at all, it's a complete non sequitur.

          You literally twisted your mind in a knot to force yourself not to think about this properly.

          • RedDawn [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            No, you’re honestly just rambling now and projecting. Be a non-materialist if you want, but you’ve presented nothing resembling a coherent argument in favor of it, just circular reasoning and mumbo jumbo.

            • space_comrade [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              but you’ve presented nothing resembling a coherent argument in favor of it, just circular reasoning and mumbo jumbo.

              I could say the same to you too, your viewpoint makes absolutely 0 sense. Like I get saying consciousness is a stuff that's caused by matter interacting but what you're proposing is just patently absurd.

              It's fascinating, it's like you're completely unable to metacognize your own awareness, this is beyond me, I give up.

              • RedDawn [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Please don’t message me anymore, I don’t have any interest in arguing against pseudoscientific nonsense anymore.

                • space_comrade [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Little do you know how pseudoscientific you're being, but whatever, it was a good talk I guess, bye.