Unless Biden drastically reverses course on Palestine, Muslims will not turn out for him on Election Day—critical voters in key swing states—and Democrats only have themselves to blame.

Former democratic party activists are organizing Muslims and Arab-Americans in Swing states to vote against Biden with the demand that he support a ceasefire in Gaza.

I'll allow them a little bit of electoralism this time.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    a year ago

    Conservatives in 2008 were almost exclusively white

    Exactly that's my point, and the supermajority of non-whites voted for Obama, while the majority of white voters who voted went for McCain, if ideological commitment formed the core of election outcomes then that wouldn't have been the case, and we would see a more even distribution among demographic groups

    The majority of McCain and white Obama voters voted the way they did because Obama was black, the conservatives voted the way they did because he was liberal and to be liberal is to be black or support black causes, and white Obama voters (aside from the ones who genuinely didn't care he was black) voted for him because voting for the first black president would've been a cultural signifier they could use as social capital in the more cosmopolitan spaces they inhabit

    White Obama voters who voted a second time couldn't have cared less about his ideological promises because he betrayed all of them in his first term

    • stevehobbes@lemm.ee
      ·
      a year ago

      Holy shit that’s insane.

      Go look at the graphs of the electorate before and after 2008. It is not wildly different.

      A majority of people did not vote because of race.

      You’re drawing very sweeping conclusions from one and a half data points.

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
        ·
        a year ago

        Go look at the graphs of the electorate before and after 2008. It is not wildly different.

        lmao yeah that just strengthens my point, otherwise if ideological commitments swayed voters then YOU have to explain why white Obama voters didn't punish him for betraying those ideological commitments in his first term, it's almost like demographics and cultural signifiers were more important than concrete ideology, and the need for cultural identification among white liberals only intensified between 2008 and 2012 after the mostly cultural conservative backlash against Obama and HIS Democratic Party, a backlash that surprise surprise found its expression in racial politics

        A majority of people did not vote because of race.

        What a profound argument, I've now changed my mind

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          a year ago

          it's almost like demographics and cultural signifiers were more important than concrete ideology

          Great point.

          Since most in the US have no concrete ideology, there are only demographics and cultural signifiers. Politcal Parties are just lifestyle brands