Problem-posing education does not and cannot serve the interests of the oppressor. No oppressive order could permit the oppressed to begin to question: Why?

Indeed, the interests of the oppressors lie in “changing the consciousness of the oppressed, not the situation which oppresses them”; for the more the oppressed can be led to adapt to that situation, the more easily they can be dominated.

Implicit in the banking concept [of education] is the assumption of a dichotomy between human beings and the world: a person is merely in the world, not with the world or with others…In this view, the person is not a conscious being (corpo consciente); he or she is rather the possessor of a consciousness: an empty “mind” passively open to the reception of deposits of reality from the world outside.

https://envs.ucsc.edu/internships/internship-readings/freire-pedagogy-of-the-oppressed.pdf

    • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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      8 months ago

      Being born is a choice that must be made for you. The idea that it's unfair because you didn't consent to it is ridiculous because no one ever concievably can.

      Which I guess is why anti-natalists have to rely on twisted calculations to come up with a measurement showing that existence is an objective negative for everyone (or just most people?), which is too broad a claim to even be meaningful. I'd even go further to say it's very reductive of human sentience to be able to qualify all our experience on a spectrum from suffering to pleasure/happiness/whatever, before we start to entertain the idea that we could tally it all up.

      But anyway, in short: if you think being born wasn't worth it, I'm afraid you're speaking for yourself. Someone had to make that choice for everyone, and it's too complicated a question to be answered with a universal no.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          Do you claim to speak for every person in the world no matter how they feel about being alive, right now, about "not consenting" to be born as you frame it? Would you be so pious in your beliefs that you would pre-emptively have prevented each and every one of those people from having that "non consenting" state of existence if you had the means to do so?

          https://www.existentialcomics.com/philosopher/David_Benatar