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Mac sales are down.
I’m really not surprised. They are just a bit too expensive once you start upgrading the storage and ram.
I have been holding out on buying a Mac since the M2 was rumored to come out.
I keep hoping that the base model will have a larger amount of storage and ram, but it does not.
They keep selling faster processors, but I do not need that, I need more storage and I’d like more ram.
At this point, I’m just going to buy a used M1 air. If Apple had 512 and 26 standard on the base air, I’d pickup a new one today.
Do you disagree? What can Apple do to increase Mac sales?
People always tell me how affordable the Mac mini is when I complain about Apples' pricing. Huh?
719€ for a computer that has 8GB of memory? Shared between cpu and gpu? In 2023?Excuse me?
That's also just a waste of good wafers for how capaple Apple silicon is.
Well, they could decide to not gimp their base models and make storage and RAM upgrades cheaper, like you say. The new base M3 MacBook Pro only exists to upsell you to a M3 Pro MacBook Pro.
If they feel like they have to have a normal M3 MacBook Pro model, they at least shouldn't gimp it and give it 16 GB of RAM as default. Also, add another display controller to the base M3. We all know you don't do it just so you can upsell to an M3 Pro.
Like I said in another thread, Apple (like all companies) always try to upsell and that's fine as a concept, but these days some of the lower-end products sole reason of existence is to upsell the customer to a more expensive product. Make these lower-end products good products.
And yeah, storage and RAM upgrades should cost half as much at most. 16/512 should absolutely be the minimum default on $1,000+ computers as well.
Also, why would people upgrade from an M1 or M2 based Mac to an M3 based one? The vast majority of people won't.
I forgot about the base models having slower ssds.
Apple is really annoying. Sadly I have to choose between an annoying company or an incompetent company.
I’m on my last nerve with windows being absolute garbage, so I’m just getting a base m1 air.
I mean it might help their value proposition to not attempt to sell monitor stands for a thousand dollars. I will never forget the audience's collective incredulous gasp at that reveal.
iPhone isn't a rosy picture either; still down in China despite a last minute price slash to boost sales.
Maybe stop designing tone-deaf products like you are bigger than the market. Nobody is immune to current market and geopolitical conditions.
I only bought a phone because my xr was broken in too many ways. I wasn’t even excited to buy it. When I was talking to my family about it, I compared it to buying tires.
It’s something you need to do every few years but are not at all excited about it.
We're bored of their expensive bulls hit
Linux is winning gradually and steadily
My main computer is Linux, but sadly I can’t work from Linux. If ever my work apps get ported to Linux, I’ll be so happy.
The base models are too gimped and anything reasonable is way too expensive. The machines are great, but they should be priced at least 20% lower.
Hope everything goes down in price a bit. Honestly Apple could afford it just to earn a bit of good will.
I think for the base price you get a really really good product despite 8gb memory. Most people just need it to perform and it does. But yea once you start upgrading it’s insanely ridiculous and it’s insulting to those who want more out of the best product they’ve made in a long time.
My work files are close to 100gb alone. I’d like to have them in the laptop, but with 256gb, I’ll be about half full.
But I’m not paying $200 to upgrade the storage. So I’m just going to have to keep it on an external drive.
I love Linux, but my work conferencing app is only Mac or Windows. But outside of work, I’m Linux mint on my desktop and steam deck for gaming.
I’m just really frustrated with Windows and it’s bugginess
It's been long enough that most of the people who wanted an M processor as their next laptop now got one, so I don't think it's surprising that sales are down, after the initial blips.
Overall computers are on the down. More people do their computing on tablets or just phones most of the time. In richer countries, windows marketshare is decreasing, and Apple's is increasing. Not really sure what else apple could do that they actually want to do.
It'd be nice if they had a MacBook SE type thing, but I don't think they'd do that. Chromebooks captured the education market so it's probably too late to do anything there. Mac minis are never in a position to break into the business small-PC realm because they aren't cheap enough. Also it'd be nice if mac minis were cheaper/better-value and more expandable, but people have asked that for years and never got it.
Storage replaceabity is a serious problem for their desktop offerings, but that's been an issue forever and they don't care because they sell iCloud, and their monthly services businesses are doing well.
