Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against using things like faux meat. I actually appreciate having that option available and it's why I asked about Beyond.

I was really into making everything from scratch for a while but most of it usually takes hours.

It certainly can. It's one of the reasons that I gravitate towards meals such as rice and beans, curries, and soups for my day to day. Especially in the case of curries and soups, I can make them in larger batches and then portion them out to span multiple meals over several days. I don't mind cooking and honestly enjoy it most of the time but I also don't want to spend all my free time cooking. Another awesome benefit to meal prepping like that is that you can save money while at the same time making sure that you are still jamming your meals full of nutritious veg.

Thanks for all the info! I will be taking a look at Beyond for when I nice faux meat.

Thanks for the info! That is a shame though.

I've been vegan for many years and started before all of these new vegan products so I really don't know much about them. All these things weren't around and honestly I just realized that I really like making rice and beans, curry, soup. Simple and cheap!

Is there anything non-vegan about Beyond? Any reason for a vegan to stay away?

It certainly might have been. Is that the company that tested on animals? I remember reading that about either Impossible or Beyond, I forget which one. That while the "meat" they produce is entirely vegan from the point of view of the ingredients they did do animal testing during the initial stages of developing some of those ingredients.

I also expect there’s much more profit to be made in continued testing, more animal-based R&D in the form of trying to translate desirable phenotypes in animal meat to the plant-produced analog, and in selling the protein back to the meat industry who can mix it with similarly graded animal protein and sell it to omnivores as a greenwashed meat product.

Reflecting on what we know about the world I'm sure you are correct when it comes to that.

I was just coming at from the point of view that we probably all know some people in our lives that are never going to go Vegan because it's the morally correct thing to do. They just don't care. So, while I wouldn't support a scenario you described it would still be better for those people to at least transition to something like that.

I realize it's far from ideal, and I'm not promoting it, but it would objectively be better than those same people eating tortured baby animals the way humanity does it currently.

All I’m trying to say is that I think they should do the R&D without exploiting more animals.

I agree with that.

I'm hoping that people turn to alternatives as the costs keep rising. I was taking a look at the effects of inflation on groceries and it seems that animal products were the hardest hit. I know so many people that will complain yet still buy at these high prices because of a combination of not caring and being addicted to these foods. If they had an alternative maybe they would opt for it.

Any drop in demand is a compounding effect. It'll just accelerate the price increases as volume drops and hopefully one day we get to a point where we can extinguish these industries.

Obviously I realize that's an optimistic point of view.

I'm inclined to agree. I was offered one of those fake meat burgers, either Impossible or Beyond, something like that, and it was rather disturbing how similar it was.

I'm not the target demographic, but there are people I know, including family members, that could be swayed by something like this.

I absolutely agree with that statement. I guess I had assumed, maybe wrongly, that you wouldn't have to do any of that. Do you know of a source that goes into the specifics?

I can't give a ton of advice but I have done well in avoiding things like viruses through a combination of making sure that I always try and get torrents from more well-known and trusted sources and also by running Linux. I'm sure I have been previously saved simply due to running Linux.

It's been a while since I have used Windows as a main OS so forgive me if it doesn't work like this but I do remember Windows Defender having the ability to quarantine folders. Is it possible to quarantine your torrent downloads folder and scan it before you run anything that's been downloaded? Even if that works it's obviously not foolproof and will only prevent you from being infected by things that are caught in the scan, but it's at least better than nothing.