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  • archive_bot@lemmygrad.mlBtoGenZhouArchive@lemmygrad.ml•Why did the Genzedong subreddit and Genzedong discord split? Which side to support?
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    2 years ago

    u/NvMe_24 - originally from r/GenZhou
    from the discord:

    We here at r/GenZedong are Communists. This is the primary position all our moderators have, and we hope, a vast majority of our userbase has as well.Communists are anti-war. The saying "no war but class war" doesn't exist for no reason. We are not "pro-Russian", but pro-peace and anti-imperialism. We hope for the conflict to end as soon as possible, and we hope for it to end diplomatically. This is a basic stance the mod team has stood unified behind for weeks.Unfortunately, it seems that much of our userbase has forgotten this basic stance of communists, essential as it has been to the movement for over a century. We must encourage all communists to remember our roots as a movement; Peace, land, and bread was the leading slogan of Lenin and the Bolsheviks, and we would do well remember this. We do not advocate for Russia, or for Ukraine, but for the working people of both states, the people harmed by this war.As communists, we would do well to remember that Russia is not our friend. A useful situational ally, perhaps, but no comrades of ours. They are not communists, merely conservative nationalists from a state opposing the west. Their desires are not the same as ours, even if our short term objectives may sometimes align. Their state media are not mouthpieces of our movement, but of their government, and it would be a great error for us to forget this.Ukraine and Russia are both bourgeois states, each lead by nationalists and kleptocrats, seeking to exploit their people. In war between bourgeois states, the correct stance is revolutionary defeatism; seek the defeat of your state in order to create the conditions for a revolution.

    Unfortunately, the administrators have a point in quarantining our subreddit for misinformation; Indeed, we of the mod team have had to remove several highly upvoted posts for being outright fabricated, which is unfortunate. Going forward, we hope our users will do better in vetting the sources of their posts.Going forward, we will be removing posts supportive of the war in Ukraine, along with posts from sources of questionable veracity. It is our hope that, perhaps, the subreddit will survive this quarantine.- The GenZedong mod team

    later another mod on discord posted this

    Since it seems that RedstarXtreme has decided to be a child about this, he has gone and demodded me from the subreddit. Every single moderator voted in favor of this statement except for him. It seems we are no longer affiliated with r/GenZedong

  • archive_bot@lemmygrad.mlBtoGenZhouArchive@lemmygrad.ml•Why were the Khrushchev-era reforms considered revisionist and the Deng-era reforms not revisionist?
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    2 years ago

    u/blizzsyn - originally from r/GenZhou
    Well. To be fair to him, as much as I don't want to be. I was sorta paraphrasing.

    His statement was more the "Dictator of the Proletariat" had now become the "Entire State of People".

    His reasoning was that everyone in the country reasoned like communists now, therefore there were no longer class contradictions (which would be communism), so it was okay to just let everyone into the communist party. Much like Stalin's, "contradictions don't come from within our system, only from outside," except more naive and less paranoid.

    I recommend reading, "Socialism Betrayed," for a good breakdown of why Khrushchev is considered a revisionist. Fantastic book overall.