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  • archive_bot@lemmygrad.mlBtoGenZhouArchive@lemmygrad.ml•Link to genzedong for easier access during these trying times
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    3 years ago

    u/Lenins2ndCat - originally from r/GenZhou
    Reddit wants a controlled opposition. Eliminate everyone that is a real threat to the status quo and maintain the illusion of an opposition and "debate" by allowing the non-threats.

    Any uncontrolled opposition is eliminated when it reaches a size or state of being that makes it a threat to those maintaining the current status quo.

    Archive everything on GenZhou because despite it being completely and totally 100% fine as a community it may be hit if Genzedong is banned, much like every single subreddit under the "chapo" banner or even remotely related to it got killed.

    If GenZhou is included it is the strongest sign that it has nothing to do with rules and everything to do with simply purging oppositional threats.

  • archive_bot@lemmygrad.mlBtoGenZhouArchive@lemmygrad.ml•Why did the Genzedong subreddit and Genzedong discord split? Which side to support?
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    3 years ago

    u/NvMe_24 - originally from r/GenZhou
    from the discord:

    We here at r/GenZedong are Communists. This is the primary position all our moderators have, and we hope, a vast majority of our userbase has as well.Communists are anti-war. The saying "no war but class war" doesn't exist for no reason. We are not "pro-Russian", but pro-peace and anti-imperialism. We hope for the conflict to end as soon as possible, and we hope for it to end diplomatically. This is a basic stance the mod team has stood unified behind for weeks.Unfortunately, it seems that much of our userbase has forgotten this basic stance of communists, essential as it has been to the movement for over a century. We must encourage all communists to remember our roots as a movement; Peace, land, and bread was the leading slogan of Lenin and the Bolsheviks, and we would do well remember this. We do not advocate for Russia, or for Ukraine, but for the working people of both states, the people harmed by this war.As communists, we would do well to remember that Russia is not our friend. A useful situational ally, perhaps, but no comrades of ours. They are not communists, merely conservative nationalists from a state opposing the west. Their desires are not the same as ours, even if our short term objectives may sometimes align. Their state media are not mouthpieces of our movement, but of their government, and it would be a great error for us to forget this.Ukraine and Russia are both bourgeois states, each lead by nationalists and kleptocrats, seeking to exploit their people. In war between bourgeois states, the correct stance is revolutionary defeatism; seek the defeat of your state in order to create the conditions for a revolution.

    Unfortunately, the administrators have a point in quarantining our subreddit for misinformation; Indeed, we of the mod team have had to remove several highly upvoted posts for being outright fabricated, which is unfortunate. Going forward, we hope our users will do better in vetting the sources of their posts.Going forward, we will be removing posts supportive of the war in Ukraine, along with posts from sources of questionable veracity. It is our hope that, perhaps, the subreddit will survive this quarantine.- The GenZedong mod team

    later another mod on discord posted this

    Since it seems that RedstarXtreme has decided to be a child about this, he has gone and demodded me from the subreddit. Every single moderator voted in favor of this statement except for him. It seems we are no longer affiliated with r/GenZedong

  • archive_bot@lemmygrad.mlBtoGenZhouArchive@lemmygrad.ml•Why I dislike calling Liberals "Fascists" (Discussion)
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    3 years ago

    u/CosmicGunman - originally from r/GenZhou
    The usage of quote "Liberalism is the Moderate wing of Fascism" is more to outline that Liberalism enables fascism. I only got the concept when recent events with Ukraine and Western coverage, and statements from parties unfolded.

    In the context that the quote presents itself today:

    1. Liberalism enables and creates apologia for Fascism (See Western support of Azov Battalion and other Ukrainian Neo-Nazis against Russians).
    2. Liberalism enables and creates apologia for Imperialism (See Western support of U.S-Anglo and/or NATO invasions/coups from Iraq to Lybia to Chile).

    The quote isn't to show that Liberalism is literally Fascism, but rather Fascism can embed itself within a Liberal order, and so by enabling its existence, Liberalism can cultivate the growth of Fascist movements until those movements mature, and try to create a counter-order to the current liberal "rules-based global order".

    Liberals don't care, because they are able to use those Fascist movements to suppress or eliminate Progressive movements.