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Cake day: October 6th, 2023

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  • I agree and think Democrats are tepid, pathetic excuses for a left wing that engage in continued imperialism and corporate control. I completely agree that they are letting us slip further into fascism and their responses are shit. I'm just saying that to make it happen quicker by (1) voting for Trump or (2) not voting for Biden seems misguided, generally. As much as I wish someone else would be on the ticket.

    My intent is not to straw-man. I assumed folks here were advocating voting for Trump, because to me that seems like the only other option on a ticket that only gives you a binary choice. I'm sorry if that's not the case and I'm missing something.

    And in that case, my question is then: what are people here advocating for? Not voting? Voting for a lefty as a write-in? Starting armed insurrection? Somewhere in between?


  • Okay, I will later when I have time. Probably days from now if not more than a week. One short thing I would argue is many things are generally worse with every passing year because (1) there has been a rightward trend in the Overton window, (2) the conservatives have been on a long, calculated campaign to gain political supremacy by diminishing voting rights, hacking away at federal power, and increasing the role of capital in political decision-making, primarily through the capture of the Judiciary (and its ideology).

    Biden sucks and is pathetic in his response to RvW being overturned, for example. But it doesn't matter if you had Chomsky himself as president, nothing could have been done to change that decision.

    I just don't think the solution is to then shift the Overton window even more right than where it is by voting for Trump, potentially making a lot of these issues (particularly in regards to voting rights), harder to shift left.


  • I'll respond to the other person's comment with more examples when I find time since you said you won't listen to me anyway.

    But I do have one question: do you think those two things would be better or worse under Trump? That answer is why it's harm reduction. Do you not remember the Muslim ban or bringing in federal agents to crack down on George Floyd protests?




  • That's just false. Two justices were appointed by Trump, one of which replaced RBG and she died. The other would arguably still be Kennedy because he wouldn't have retired under Clinton, and he was probably less reactionary than Kavanaugh (time will tell). Also, Trump appointed a massive amount of lower court judges and that greatly affects what cases even make it up to the Supreme Court. A 5-4 majority by conservatives is wildly different than a 6-3 majority with massive lower court support.

    I don't know how you can say "Clinton wouldn't have been able to put any other judges in anyway" when we know that she would have replaced RBG.