Wow. They just lifted the horrific Desktop management paradigm from MacOS.

But I don't know, I guess people like it, and fortunately I'm not forced to use KDE.

This would be a pretty ok joke if somebody wasn't actually being serious about it. Context sucks.

Yeah, it's not a lot percentually: that coral reef is estimated to be roughly 4600 square kilometers (though I found another source saying it to be over 26000).

But then again, the Amazon Forest is 6,7 million square kilometers, so if you look at just the numbers, it doesn't seem like much if 10 000 square kilometers is lost every year.

Jeez, I thought for a split second this graph was Trump vs Biden.

Does System76 have right now, or upcoming, any laptops that can match Apple's hardware quality? They seem like Clevo rebrands.

That would imply that Ukraine and USA should be asking for negotiations.

So possible options as I see them:

1. Biden's USA is stubborn and nihilistic and just wants to kill as many Ukrainians and Russians as possible before Trump comes in and forces Ukraine to accept a treaty

2. USA (and Ukraine) knows that Putin hasn't changed its demands at all so any talks are pointless

3. USA (and Ukraine) knows that Russia is losing and doesn't want to negotiate

4. Biden forgot how to use a phone and is too embarrased to ask

I'm personally going with 2 with a sprinkle of 4 and 1. In my happy dreams, 3.

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Maybe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War#cite_note-KR2007_13-137

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War#cite_note-138

Guilty as charged, but in my defense I've been killing time while waiting for CI runs to complete... I probably could have and should have killed a little less time today.

Well, I'm so sorry, but this discussion is just not important enough for me that I feel the need to do actual research. I'm sure you can follow up the sources in the wiki if you want to find out more yourself.

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Not sure. The wikipedia article claims "Most sources conclude that the Soviet Union had intended to conquer all of Finland, and cite the establishment of the puppet Finnish Communist government and the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact's secret protocols as evidence of this, while other sources argue against the idea of a full Soviet conquest." -- so I guess it's not entirely non-controversial.

USSR did annex all the other countries listed in Molotov-Ribbentrop though: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, eastern parts of Poland and Romania.

when was this wholesale conquest on the table?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War#Soviet_order_of_battle

"The 7th Army, comprising nine divisions, a tank corps and three tank brigades, was located on the Karelian Isthmus. Its objective was to quickly overrun the Finnish defenses on the Karelian Isthmus and conquer Viipuri. From there, the 7th Army was to continue towards Lappeenranta, then turn west towards Lahti, before the final push to the capital Helsinki. The force was later divided into the 7th and 13th Armies."

That 7th Army was the one that received extremely heavy casualties in their attempts of a breakthrough.

Also, the land concessions before starting this war demanded removal of defensive lines and a military base near Helsinki (the capital). This was just diplomacy as a means to make the war easier.

hah, yes, k/d ratio is how you measure success, right.

As you correctly point out, this is not the only thing that matters. Other issues contributed to USSR failing to conquer Finland as they set out to do. As they indeed did to every other country they had been given the permission to conquer from Hitler.

you’re a child.

I wonder how serious Rule 2 is to lemmy.ml admins, when people keep breaking it everywhere without any consequences. Is this a sort of sandbox that I have entered into, and that's why so many people are throwing tantrums here?

edit Okay they do take it seriously.

the USSR beat your ass and STILL didnt want most of your shit country. they could’ve taken it after winning the winter war, but didnt.

The fact that their casualties were 5 times worse (or about 150x worse if we're counting tanks) than ours might have had something to do with them not wanting our shit country.

Not that it matters. The important thing was they didn't conquer us.

and you’re still convinced they’re coming for you.

Well, not anymore that much, thanks to our NATO friends.

Ok, so disregard that part if you wish. Finland was doing nothing to its jewish population during Winter War. After the alliance, we sent 8 jews who had fled from Germany back, 7 of whom were murdered in concentration camps, and then some 80 from prisoners of war who were jews. These were shitty actions, but also we blocked the deportations of many more. Specifically, exactly 0 Finnish jews were deported to Germany even though this was demanded from us.

There’s also a question of what “national interest” means when the U.S. coups your elected government, as it did to Ukraine in 2014.

Does there exist proof that it was a US coup?