Oh well, double down I guess. A prominant Hexbear community is called "Dunking On Libs", which, as we both know, is going to other instances where they engage in "jumping to conclusions" and "just trying to win".

You almost had self awareness. Almost.

I'll leave you with what I wrote in my last post:

The only way I have found to engage with users from your instance is reflexively using their own debate strategies

How do you plan on implementing these strategies in 2023, in a country that has global hegemony and the ability to prevent a 1917? Crickets again

I mean this genuinely - It seems like you're one of the more reasonable Hexbear users, just for saying this alone:

I haven’t studied South Korea’s policies and material conditions closely enough to offer much of an informed analysis, as the world is a very big place.

Intelligence is always knowing where your current knowledge ends. I don't have all the answers to everything either and it's easier to engage in discussion when both participants know their limitations, which is the bare minimum required for a good faith discussion. Virtually all other Hexbear users double down and go on the offensive when they are hit with something they don't know about, which is why I've developed a particular disdain for users from your instance and refrain from substantial engagement because it always devolves into sealioning. The only way I have found to engage with users from your instance is reflexively using their own debate strategies otherwise I'm constantly told I "don't know anything unless I've read insert-book-of-the-week".

I used South Korea because it's pretty much worse than the US in every regard. My joke, "Samsung Korea", wasn't an ignorant American's take thinking all they make are cell phones, rather, Samsung is basically at the top of their oligarchy and has more control over their government than US corporations, believe it or not. South Korea has one of the best life expectancies, but is one of the worse examples of capitalism.

What's your plan? Crickets

Life expectancy doesn’t always give the whole picture.

Could have saved us a lot of time, going all the way back to the post where you used life expectancy to try to paint a whole picture.

You can keep waiting for the revolution, I'll keep working on getting democratic socialists elected.

We can compare notes on who made a bigger difference in a few decades.

Yeah there are a lot of people smarter and better than me so that's not the insult you think it is.

Ok, give me a call when we are about to start the people's revolution. My mom gave me enough money to get snacks for everyone.

I support whatever this is so idk what that makes me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

I'm assuming you equally support all those capitalist countries that have high life expectancies. Samsung Korea I mean South Korea with it's life expectancy of 84 years is generally considered a great society on Hexbear, no?

"The sky is green and I know you dumb neoliberal are going to try and tell me it's blue!"

How do you reconcile the fact that China has more stock exchanges than BurgerlandUSA?

Pretty hard to defend, so I expected you to claim bad faith and throw in the towel. Your Hexbear friends have better endurance and wit.

The entire point of this brilliant thread is that communism, not individuals, lifted people out of poverty. Numerous economic systems have high life expectancy (socialist, capitalist, etc) and the common denominator is basically just industrialization.

Who would have thought the ability to make nation-state quantities of medication extends lives?

Cuba is your best example, however, it is a socialist state and not communism.

China has three stock exchanges and is not communist:

• http://english.sse.com.cn/
• http://www.bse.cn/
• https://www.szse.cn/English/index.html

The USSR never got to the "people's dictatorship", ya know, because the dictators never completed that step. Despite being a very powerful country at their peak, the USSR only exists as a memory of a failed state.

So you agree it has nothing to do with communism and you're just trolling around the internet. Got it.

I have never had the opportunity to have a more in-depth discussion because you guys seem more interested in smugly acting more intelligent than everyone, forgetting you need to recruit "people" to have a "people's revolution".

Since you're one of the wise leaders of the revolution, what is your plan to bring your superior ideologies to the masses?

Where has it worked?

Correlation or causation? You know that industrialization increases life expectancy, right?

It's not hard to double your life expectancy when you're starting out with the same life expectancy that existed in the Roman Empire almost 2,000 years prior. Thanks, Mao!

Funny you mention that. Whenever I do cite any "theory" that I have read, you well-read individuals somehow always disappear and avoid discussing anything. I'm sure you'll either A) do the same thing or B) move the goalposts all the way to Laos/Cambodia.

https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/2650764

All of Hexbear is suburban US kids so of course I knew you didn't live in any of these glorious peoples republics.

Mao died in 1976, which is where that life expectancy graph is somewhere in the mid 50s. Super impressive.

Deng was alive and well when two of those stock exchanges were opened and the whole argument was "look at the improvements only possible under Communism".

How do you say "moving the goalposts" in Mandarin? Actually, no need to answer as you are all suburban petit bourgeois kids from the US.