Again, you are saying that the statement is not materialist because it is detached from reality. Notice how showing that it is detached from reality with evidence is already sufficient in refuting the statement, without involving materialism at all. Materialist here is only a rigid signifier that confirms whether something is correct/incorrect.
Besides, ideology is not seperate from a materialist analysis
Marx and Engels was creating original work that disrupted mainstream consensus. They have wrote hundreds of pages on what materialism is/isnt and that is why when they used it, it actually meant something. There is no point in bringing up materialism when you are on a website for entertainment, neither is knowing history beyond propaganda particularly materialist. I am arguing this because I view this as a case of marxism being turned into a spectacle on the internet and diluted to the point of being useless and harmless. Whatever I agree with is materialist and marxist, what I percieve as reality is material conditions, everyone around me is a brainwashed liberal and only I am smart enough to be marxist. I then go on the internet to post about how I dunked on delusional liberals and lament at how stupid people are and how humanity is done for. Marxism is not for this.
what is your point? I can say something ridiculous like Hitler was the choice of the German proletariat and that national socialism is the inevitable result of imperialist capitalism and is the final mode of production. Is this now more historically materialist? You will use evidence to refute this claim, as you do with all ridiculous claims like "cuba is a communist shithole“, but "I am materialist and you are not" is not a valid evidence nor conclusion.
Im not saying they arent out of touch with reality. Irrational, sure, poisoned by ideology, absolutely, but this simply has nothing to do with materialism. Materialism isn't just being in touch with reality, it is a philosophical position that has many versions. I really don't like how marxist terms are vulgarized and thrown around incorrectly.
but that's a position that has nothing to do with materialism. they believe cuba is a communist shithole, materially. there's nothing that makes your position more materialist than theirs.
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if anything I would be calling you a lib