whoahdeude [none/use name]

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Joined 4 years ago
Cake day: December 5th, 2020
  • whoahdeude [none/use name]toMain•If you think that language and wording isn't what you should be putting energy towards in the leftist struggle...
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    4 years ago

    What I meant with the difference between slurs and pronouns is that with slurs, it's easy to solve by just shutting up, while with pronouns, you have to make an active effort to create certain speech, which means keeping track of who is trans vs cis vs queer (which is hard to remember unless you are already friends).

    I made a point of differentiating language from inclusion. It is mostly student adjacent groups who focus in on language, which is to be expected considering it's the place where you read.

    It shocked me to discover that most people don't mull over every single word before they speak it. Some people are more "language brained" than others, just like others are more "number brained" or "music brained" for lack of better words. Whether this is genetic or socially constructed is irrelevant, it's pretty slow to change.

    It's interesting that you bring up languages without gendered pronouns, since those languages are still spoken by cultures just as sexist as ours. Maybe there are more important things to change than language, and organizational time is valuable. [insert materialist vs idealist conflict wall of text here]

  • whoahdeude [none/use name]toMain•If you think that language and wording isn't what you should be putting energy towards in the leftist struggle...
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    4 years ago

    I understand your point of view, but it's impossible to ignore.

    1. These arguments are indeed easy for reactionaries to twist. That doesn't mean the basic arguments are inherently wrong.
    2. "inclusive language, inclusivity, and cultural appropriation" are three separate things, only one is based in language.
    3. A major problem in leftist circles is that we start to create a language that nobody outside the circles can understand, much less identify with. of course this goes both ways! We have to ask, do we want to organize the normies or the college kids? Do we want to be the HR wing of capital?
    4. It's one thing to be upset over slurs, but another thing to be upset over pronouns, that are such an ingrained, basically reptile brain use of language.
    5. Rapists can use shibboleths too, proper language is no guarantee for equality.
  • whoahdeude [none/use name]tomemes•So true!
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    4 years ago

    after bombing muslims, including uighurs, for several centuries, the US conservatives suddenly decided that they care about their plight. did you also believe Saddam had WMDs?