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Does it fail as satire? Does this kind of thing work as good satire for specific people? Somebody explain.

  • Animasta [any]
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    3 years ago

    I'm not really into 40k, but my group to played the Dark Heresy ttrpg for a bit and I could never figure out how this kind of satire supposed to work. Like the book took pains to make Inquisition or Space Marines or whatever seem as cool as possible, not ridicule them. Novels and faction (?) books might be different, I dunno.

    People on twitter are angry and calling GWS a "nazi bar". Then again I know leftists who swear by the setting...

    • Glass [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah they have a real problem with the space marine fan boys, every fascist I've ever encountered who was into 40K played space marines because they obviously salivate over being "inherently superior" to the masses.

      Playing Guard against them is very fun because exploding from a mortar round fired by some acne scarred teenage conscript is just about the funniest and least dignified end possible for their beloved immortal uber-soldiers.

      Mfs out here playing Buzz Lightyear while I'm playing Stalingrad.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        3 years ago

        guard is great you get to be like those historically incorrect descriptions of the Soviet Union, sending unarmed masses to soak up the bullets with their cheap bodies while your commissars shoot everyone who even thinks of running away. Great fun.

        • Glass [he/him,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I love that the Catachan have an officer fragging mechanic

          For non 40K-Knowers, the Catachan are a Guard subfaction very obviously styled after US troops in Vietnam. If your army includes any commissars, you have to roll a die during deployment to see if they even make it to the battlefield. The rule is called Oops, sorry sir!

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Your Commisars can execute their own troops for in game bonuses. They have awesome tanks. There are penal battalions. It's like if Enemy at the Gates wasn't just American propaganda.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I could never figure out how this kind of satire supposed to work.

      Judging by the letter, it doesn't. But then people think I'm ridiculous for suggesting that maybe dressing up kids as storm troopers or Darth Vader isn't the greatest idea. So what do I know?

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I, too, am seriously creeped out by people who dress up as spacce nazis for funsies.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah it's like read the fucking subtext, guys. I get that it's fiction but you're dressing up as very literal space Nazis. What kind of person would want to dress up as a stormtrooper when you could be a Jedi, or even a Clone Trooper?

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        What idiot dresses their kids up as stormtroopers anyway? They were the faceless henchmen who just got owned every time they were on screen lol

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Slaanesh, the God of Rape and Cocaine, has evil Space Marines who murder people using the power of Heavy Metal. They literally have guitar flamethrower guns. Back in the 80s the game was so obviously over the top and silly that it was hard to take seriously. The Space Orks talk, dress, and act like British football hooligans. They've gotten more serious about the Grim Dark since then and it's made it harder to read as satire.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think the problem is that little kids who played warhammer grew up to be writers who write warhammer and they've forgotten that the nazi genocidal space empire is supposed to be tongue in cheek.

          • MerryChristmas [any]
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            3 years ago

            I think I was trying to make an analogy to the way that a generation of recruits raised entirely on US propaganda has compounded certain issues in intelligence agencies, but I was super stoned and I might have gotten lost somewhere along the way.

            • KiaKaha [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Oh yeah I got that I wanted to hear more about CIA mormons