EDIT: I'm very proud of this community. All the posts are making me think and solidly criticizing from an anti-imperialist perspective. Thanks, hexbear

  • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    So because NATO previously looted Russia that makes it more ok for NATO to attack them now? I don’t follow your convoluted logic to get out of revolutionary defeatism

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      So because NATO previously looted Russia that makes it more ok for NATO to attack them now?

      I'm not pro NATO or think it's OK for NATO to do anything it has done. Where did I say it was ok for NATO to do anything? NATO shouldn't exist. And neither should the Russian federation. Bring back the USSR. Russian federation only exists because NATO destroyed the USSR through US-backed privatization and looting.

      • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        As I have said like 10 times already, fence sitting as a westerner is supporting NATO and failing your duty

        • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          how am I fence sitting when I said NATO/US/EU caused this war and also destroyed the USSR? Like if Ukraine and Russia were both still socialist and part of the USSR, and if NATO didn't exist, none of this would possible.

            • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I won’t be happy until people here just are virulently anti-west in all scenarios and work to bring down their own empire instead of sitting back and enjoying the carnage. You live inside a Nazi regime, your inaction is complicity, and your attack of the enemies of your regime is a betrayal of socialism and internationalism

              • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                I agree with your political conclusions that being anti-west is necessary in all scenarios but not your characterization that comrades enjoy the carnage.

                You live inside a Nazi regime, your inaction is complicity, and your attack of the enemies of your regime is a betrayal of socialism and internationalism

                Socialism is the enemy of the United States, which is the imperial center of gravity. The Russian federation and Ukraine are both products of the destruction of the USSR by the United States. To the extent that the Russian federation is an "enemy" of the united states, it is only because it stands in the way of Unipolar US hegemony, but not in the way of Capitalism itself. I sincerely hope the bourgeois Russian government is ousted and Communists take power in Russia again. And I hope the same for the US. You're right, inaction is complicity. I'll try to demonstrate more against my country's actions, even if it gets me and my family tortured and killed.

                • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  There are multiple people in this thread who have literally said “let them fight”. That comes off as calloused glee to me, and a complete failure of critical support and revolutionary defeatism

              • Ideology [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                You've never read my other posts, huh. I'm a self-hating landback type. Hating :cracker: is kinda one of my primary traits. I just don't lick Putin's asshole every time I open my mouth, which is your minimum requirement for a good post

                • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  You claim to hate the US yet you spread US propaganda about its enemies, curious

                  :very-intelligent:

                  You have yet to figure out the concepts of revolutionary defeatism, imperialism and critical support

                  • Ideology [she/her]
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                    2 years ago

                    There is literally nothing critical about your support

                    • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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                      2 years ago

                      You don’t read my posts do you? I have plenty of posts pointing out issues with Russian government structure, tactics, strategy.

                      There is literally nothing “support” about your critical support.

                      • CA0311 [they/them]
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                        2 years ago

                        when you say tactics and strategy, do you mean to say that your criticism of Russia is that they aren't prosecuting the war effectively?

                        • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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                          2 years ago

                          Yes, but also other areas.

                          For example, just yesterday I said that I don’t approve of Russia’s strategy of abandoning territory to save the lives of their troops if that means leaving behind sympathetic civilians that would be tortured and killed by the Ukrainians as traitors and collaborators.

                          I’ve also joined in with @granit in criticizing their neoliberal central bank policies, for example.

                          I shouldn’t even need to do these things to prove anything to you though. You should be following revolutionary defeatism.

              • BoldTake [e/em/eir, comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                You live inside a Nazi regime, your inaction is complicity, and your attack of the enemies of your regime is a betrayal of socialism and internationalism

                what do you view as action in this case? is there a specific metric you have in mind for what meets your expectations?

                I will not voice uncritical support for any country that actively attacks LGBTQIA+ people.

                • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  Organizing with whoever will join you to call for peace and and end to material support to Ukraine for weapons. Denouncing NATO. Calling for the dissolution of NATO. Not repeating anti-Russia propaganda.

                  Its clear you won’t voice critical support either, just sit on the fence. I assume you will be consistent in your take and denounce Palestine equally as Israel?